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Old 04-07-2009, 02:06 PM  
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Your Top 5 picks for the #3 overall.

Who do you want the Chiefs to take with the #3 overall?

Seriously. I want you to see what ChiefsPlanet regards as elite, #3 talent.

All choices are welcome here. This is just me picking your brain. This thread is largely debate-free.

Thanks in advance for the honesty.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:55 AM   #136
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DUH.

The Chiefs tagged Jared Allen on February 28th. He was traded to the Vikings on April 22nd/23rd. He signed a new deal with the Vikings two days later.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:57 AM   #137
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DUH.

The Chiefs tagged Jared Allen on February 28th. He was traded to the Vikings on April 22nd/23rd. He signed a new deal with the Vikings two days later.
Beat me to it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:00 AM   #138
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Champ Bailey was traded to the Broncos on March 3rd or 4th after being designated the Redskins franchise player. He signed a new deal that same day.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:00 AM   #139
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So I've found 3 examples so far and all 3 of them signed long-term deals within 48 hours of being traded.

So much for the idea that Cassel is THE guy and there's no other possibility.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:05 AM   #140
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I've said this before and it got ignored, but I'm pretty sure every franchise player traded has had a long term deal worked out with the new team before the trade was finalized. It just wasn't signed until a day or two later usually.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:06 AM   #141
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Gross wasn't the Panthers franchise player...
My fault. He was going to be but signed right before the deadline.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:08 AM   #142
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I've only found one example so far, so bear with me.

John Abraham was trade from the Jets to the Falcons on March 21st. He signed a new deal with the Falcons on March 23rd.
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DUH.

The Chiefs tagged Jared Allen on February 28th. He was traded to the Vikings on April 22nd/23rd. He signed a new deal with the Vikings two days later.
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So I've found 3 examples so far and all 3 of them signed long-term deals within 48 hours of being traded.

So much for the idea that Cassel is THE guy and there's no other possibility.
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I've said this before and it got ignored, but I'm pretty sure every franchise player traded has had a long term deal worked out with the new team before the trade was finalized. It just wasn't signed until a day or two later usually.
And then there was Cassel, who didn't even know he'd been traded until the day AFTER.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:08 AM   #143
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If Cassel was still with the Patriots as we near the draft... as through history most franchised players would be at this time... and we would have aquired his services say a day or two before the draft, I might be more inclined to agree with you on the common sense thing.

However, 1 day into the Free Agency/Trading period is pretty unique for players moving teams for draft picks in this scenario.

Nothing is going to shock me... at leat I don't think it will... on draft day. That would include drafting a QB at #3 and keeping Cassel, drafting a QB at #3 and trading Cassel, or not drafting a QB at all and going with Cassel.

If it winds up being option 3, five years from now I will be much more disappointed if a Sanchez/Stafford selection would have been the route to go long term, and we missed out on either option 1 or 2.

There will be more draft picks and more drafts to fill out the roster. Super Bowl franchise QB types are very hard to find. LB's and O-linemen not so much.
I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:13 AM   #144
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I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.
I could see a 1 year tutor situation.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:14 AM   #145
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I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.
I would be too.

But I wouldn't at all be shocked if the Chiefs took Sanchez and TRADED Cassel, or even traded Sanchez.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:22 AM   #146
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I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.
I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:29 AM   #147
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I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.
Yep!

And that includes drafting an OT at #3. I wouldn't be very excited about the pick... would rather that be part of a trade down scenario... but I won't be stunned if Monroe is the pick. Especially since that selection seems to be picking up steam with the pundits.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:33 AM   #148
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Good info htismage and Rustshack, I wasn't sure how common this was and boom I've got my answer.
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I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.
A new GM asking an owner to pay someone 15 million to babysit for one year is pretty far fetched.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:57 AM   #150
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I don't think Sanchez is as good as others think, but I'll gladly eat the crow, if the chiefs take him and he does good and all. OT are better and would def. be in the top five, but don't know that we'd do that. If it's WR I know its homeristic, but maclin has speed, can return, loves to play the game. Crabtree, again - not my pick, but I'll eat the crow if I'm wrong.
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