Berry is a bust

[keg in kc]

Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.

[Mecca]

This is Petro trying to justify that he was right in saying we shouldn't take a safety that high, that's all this is about.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Chiefs have given up 2 sacks in 2 games. The sack that Cleveland got was 100% on Cassel. 1 sack in 2 games does not place either tackle "at even 50% of the top two at their position." The team is also 5th in the league in rushing (yards per game) 9th in yards per attempt. That's a great stat considering how bad the passing game is.

I've taken your double dog dare, shoved it down your throat and now it's your turn to stick your clit to a frozen light pole.

IIRC, the sack against SD was 100% on Cassel as well.

Richardson pushed the pass rusher behind the pocket, and instead of stepping up, Cassel held on to the ball and was sacked.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Chiefs have given up 2 sacks in 2 games. The sack that Cleveland got was 100% on Cassel. 1 sack in 2 games does not place either tackle "at even 50% of the top two at their position." The team is also 5th in the league in rushing (yards per game) 9th in yards per attempt. That's a great stat considering how bad the passing game is.

Well then, I guess Charlie's focus on getting the ball out of Cassel's hands due to the lack of talent that we have at the tackle position is paying off, because it sure isn't due to the skills of our substandard right and left tackles.

As far as the run game goes, of course it is going to be up there because our passing offense is so horrific. In fact, despite having the 5th rated run offense, our overall offense stands at 30th. That's the big 3 - 0. It's not a "great stat considering how bad the passing game is." It's because the passing game is so bad. (And you can thank Weigmann and Lilja for basically allowing the Chiefs to gain that much, because if Niswanger was in there, our run games stats would mirror those of the passing game.)

We are 30th in the league in passing attempts. We are 32nd in the league in completions. We aren't giving up sacks because we aren't passing the ball. And on those rare occasions that we do pass the ball, those passes are quick 5 yard checkdowns. The reason that Matt Cassel hasn't been sacked isn't because we have this ultra-new, super duper, amazing offensive line. It's because they are getting the ball out as fast as humanly possible so our completely ineffectual tackles don't get freight trained on every single passing down.

It's because of shitty tackle play that we have the second to worst yard per pass in the NFL, surpassed only by the horrible Fluffalo Bills who actually do have a worse offensive line.

So, now I triple dog dare you to actually go back and watch the tackle play in the preseason and first two regular season games and tell me if they are actually even mediocre.

I've taken your double dog dare, shoved it down your throat and now it's your turn to stick your clit to a frozen light pole.

Nice talk sugar lips. Do you kiss your Mom with that mouth?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is Petro trying to justify that he was right in saying we shouldn't take a safety that high, that's all this is about.

That's what it seems to me. Like that kind of thing doesn't happen around here 417 times a day.

And he's most likely correct anyway.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

IIRC, the sack against SD was 100% on Cassel as well.

Richardson pushed the pass rusher behind the pocket, and instead of stepping up, Cassel held on to the ball and was sacked.

IIRC the sack against SD was one where Philips hit Cassel without being blocked. Milkman and I were trying to figure out whether it was Richardson or Pope on the whiff, I don't remember if we ever came to a conclusion. Either way, if memory serves, it wasn't one where he held the ball. He was drilled right after the snap.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

A few minutes ago he guaranteed that Berry would not be Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu.

Now he's saying he's Bernard Pollard.

Well, Pollard did win the game for the Texans with a blocked field goal Sunday.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Well then, I guess Charlie's focus on getting the ball out of Cassel's hands due to the lack of talent that we have at the tackle position is paying off, because it sure isn't due to the skills of our substandard right and left tackles.

As far as the run game goes, of course it is going to be up there because our passing offense is so horrific. In fact, despite having the 5th rated run offense, our overall offense stands at 30th. That's the big 3 - 0. It's not a "great stat considering how bad the passing game is." It's because the passing game is so bad. (And you can thank Weigmann and Lilja for basically allowing the Chiefs to gain that much, because if Niswanger was in there, our run games stats would mirror those of the passing game.)

We are 30th in the league in passing attempts. We are 32nd in the league in completions. We aren't giving up sacks because we aren't passing the ball. And on those rare occasions that we do pass the ball, those passes are quick 5 yard checkdowns. The reason that Matt Cassel hasn't been sacked isn't because we have this ultra-new, super duper, amazing offensive line. It's because they are getting the ball out as fast as humanly possible so our completely ineffectual tackles don't get freight trained on every single passing down.

It's because of shitty tackle play that we have the second to worst yard per pass in the NFL, surpassed only by the horrible Fluffalo Bills who actually do have a worse offensive line.

So, now I triple dog dare you to actually go back and watch the tackle play in the preseason and first two regular season games and tell me if they are actually even mediocre.



Nice talk sugar lips. Do you kiss your Mom with that mouth?

I would have to argue that. Cassel had more time to throw against Cleveland than I can ever remember seeing.

[keg in kc]

Man, I wish you guys wouldn't quote that moron, it renders my ignore useless.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It's because of shitty QB play that we have the second to worst yard per pass in the NFL, surpassed only by the horrible Fluffalo Bills who actually do have a worse QB.

Fixed.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Brock

Fixed.

True. Thank you.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Well then, I guess Charlie's focus on getting the ball out of Cassel's hands due to the lack of talent that we have at the tackle position is paying off, because it sure isn't due to the skills of our substandard right and left tackles.

Admit it: You masturbate in the morning while thinking of Russell Okung and in the evening, Zane Beadles.

[Mecca]

Sacc is going to furiously masturbate this Sunday when San Fran comes in here with it's 3 first round linemen and I believe their other 2 are 2nd rounders...all to protect their shitty QB.

His dream come true!

[Hug it Out Dan]

I've seen mult plays this season when the Oline literally gives Cassel 5 sec or so to get rid of the ball, and he still doesn't get rid of it, only to take the sack or throw a shitty god damn pass.

The Oline is playing very well this season, this isn't even an issue.

Even in New England, with Welker and Moss plus a very good pass protecting Oline, was STILL the most sacked QB in the NFL.

The guy holds onto the ball to ****ing long. He doesn't throw to his WR's before breaking into their route. He waits til the WR is wide open with enough seperation where he feels he won't throw a god damn interception. Remember he hasn't had very much PT since his HS days.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Admit it: You masturbate in the morning while thinking of Russell Okung and in the evening, Zane Beadles.

We'd have most likely been a lot better off for the long run with those two guys versus Berry and McCluster.

Berry has cost us two touchdowns and McCluster, for all his speed and versatility, has 2 receptions for 9 yards and two runs for a grand total of 3 yards. Sure, the special teams TD was nice, but we would have had that earlier if Studebaker had decided to pull his head out of his ass on Arenas' run. McCluster is starting to parallel Kris Wilson as our super secret offensive weapon.

Could have picked up Morgan Burnett in the third, and bingo!, quality LT, quality RT, starting safety, etc.

[Basileus777]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

We'd have most likely been a lot better off for the long run with those two guys versus Berry and McCluster.

Berry has cost us two touchdowns and McCluster, for all his speed and versatility, has 2 receptions for 9 yards and two runs for a grand total of 3 yards. Sure, the special teams TD was nice, but we would have had that earlier if Studebaker had decided to pull his head out of his ass on Arenas' run. McCluster is starting to parallel Kris Wilson as our super secret offensive weapon.

Great job talking about the long-run there.