Chiefs What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2 - Page 10

dlphg9 · 02-17-2021, 05:43 AM

Spoiler alert!

Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.

Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.

Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 212
Rec - 148
Yards - 2064

Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 273
Rec - 209
Yards - 2502

Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 193
Rec - 135
Yards - 1846

Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 198
Rec - 135
Yards - 2059

New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 189
Rec - 144
Yards - 1482

Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 188
Rec - 116
Yards - 1470

Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 261
Rec - 183
Yards - 2357

Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 164
Rec - 99
Yards - 1391

Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 227
Rec - 155
Yards - 2092

Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option :

Targets - 62
Receptions - 41
Yards - 530

Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined :

Targets - 212
Receptions - 147
Yards - 1918

This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option

Targets - 62 (62 avg)
Receptions - 41 (41 avg)
Yards - 560 (530 avg)

Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined

Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)

So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.

TLDR;

Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.

PS:

Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.

PSS:

****ing Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!

PSSS:

****ing MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.

In58men · 07-08-2021, 02:07 AM

KEEP DOUBTING GEHRIG ****ING DIETER!!!!!

Dunerdr · 07-08-2021, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

KEEP DOUBTING GEHRIG ****ING DIETER!!!!!

Ok, I will.

In58men · 07-08-2021, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Ok, I will.

**RealSNR** · 07-08-2021, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

This cracked me up:

What Chiefs player needs to have a big 2021?

Mecole Hardmanhttps://t.co/MHODNnlPHF @ArrowheadLive @CBreezy_Edits pic.twitter.com/PIDdtyg9HQ
— Price Carter (@priceacarter) June 28, 2021

Look at who said the quote in the graphic this guy tweeted

Who the **** is that? Dollar Store Cris Carter?

staylor26 · 07-26-2021, 05:24 PM

Really good presser with Mecole today.

He seems like he’s matured quite a bit, and he understands that he needs to be better, along with where he needs to be better.

Mr_Tomahawk · 07-26-2021, 08:18 PM

I REALLY had high hopes for this guy when we drafted him…

In58men · 07-26-2021, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I REALLY had high hopes for this guy when we drafted him…

He’ll be fine. Completely different role for the kid now.

1st year pass, rookie.

2nd year COVID no offseason

3rd year, bigger role no excuses.

Put me down for first 1,000 yd club. LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smithandrew051 · 07-26-2021, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

He’ll be fine. Completely different role for the kid now.

1st year pass, rookie.

2nd year COVID no offseason

3rd year, bigger role no excuses.

Put me down for first 1,000 yd club. LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will have 1 yard for every post in this thread!!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!!

Red Dawg · 07-26-2021, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Ok, I will.

So will I.

Dunerdr · 07-27-2021, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I REALLY had high hopes for this guy when we drafted him…

Hes no Tyler Wilson but hes been carving out a decent career.

Dante84 · 07-27-2021, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Really good presser with Mecole today.

He seems like he’s matured quite a bit, and he understands that he needs to be better, along with where he needs to be better.

True although I was a little annoyed he didn’t make an effort to work out with Patrick at all this offseason. “We just weren’t in the same vicinity.” Dude you played video games and bowled at Olathe lanes all offseason.

Remember the offseason before the Super Bowl when Kelce, DRob and Patrick were running routes every day together? That’s what I was hoping Mecole would do.

In58men · 07-27-2021, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

True although I was a little annoyed he didn’t make an effort to work out with Patrick at all this offseason. “We just weren’t in the same vicinity.” Dude you played video games and bowled at Olathe lanes all offseason.

Remember the offseason before the Super Bowl when Kelce, DRob and Patrick were running routes every day together? That’s what I was hoping Mecole would do.

Dude, I thought I was the only that was disappointed in this. How did he not make time?

old_geezer · 07-27-2021, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

He will have 1 yard for every post in this thread!!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!!

147 posts so far. Sounds about right.

**RealSNR** · 07-28-2021, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Dude, I thought I was the only that was disappointed in this. How did he not make time?

I’ll bet Gehrig Dieter made the time!!

Halfcan · 07-28-2021, 06:53 PM

Soren Petro is trying to run Hardman out of town.

"The guy doesn't get it!! Andy, Andy, what do you think of Mecole not working out with Mahomes!"

He is still ranting over a play Mahomes told him to come back for the ball-lol

Mecole caught a deep TD today in camp- so, I think he will be fine.

02-17-2021, 05:43 AM
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1430347	What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2 Spoiler alert! Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem. Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy. Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds Top 2 options Targets - 212 Rec - 148 Yards - 2064 Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds Top 2 options Targets - 273 Rec - 209 Yards - 2502 Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds Top 2 options Targets - 193 Rec - 135 Yards - 1846 Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds Top 2 options Targets - 198 Rec - 135 Yards - 2059 New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds Top 2 options Targets - 189 Rec - 144 Yards - 1482 Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds Top 2 options Targets - 188 Rec - 116 Yards - 1470 Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds Top 2 options Targets - 261 Rec - 183 Yards - 2357 Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds Top 2 options Targets - 164 Rec - 99 Yards - 1391 Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense 3rd most productive receiving option Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds Top 2 options Targets - 227 Rec - 155 Yards - 2092 Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option : Targets - 62 Receptions - 41 Yards - 530 Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined : Targets - 212 Receptions - 147 Yards - 1918 This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option Targets - 62 (62 avg) Receptions - 41 (41 avg) Yards - 560 (530 avg) Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined Targets - 280 (most in group) Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group) Yards - 2692 (most in group) So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats. TLDR; Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time. PS: Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs. PSS: **ing Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games! PSSS: **ing MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Soren Petro is trying to run Hardman out of town. "The guy doesn't get it!! Andy, Andy, what do you think of Mecole not working out with Mahomes!" He is still ranting over a play Mahomes told him to come back for the ball-lol Mecole caught a deep TD today in camp- so, I think he will be fine.
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