Royals leaving the K

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On Ch 41 just now....

[Titty Meat]

Fat asses complaining about having to walk 3 city blocks

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Ive been to Astos, Boston, Rockies, Cards and Yanks.

Its only better than Yankees

New or old Yankees stadium? Old was amazing.

Friend have mine has visited almost every stadium and Kauffman is really high up the list. He is a Yankees fan as well. I personally have yet to be able to catch a royals game the 6 times I have made it to kc. I always love driving passed it though.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by srvy

Are you going to a Baseball or football game or a tour of 3 to four city blocks?

I live out of town so when I come to Kansas City I want to get an experience. I live the same distance away from KC as I do St. Louis. When I go to a Cardinals game, I get a hotel downtown, walk to the game, enjoy Ballpark Village and other downtown attractions. I go to a Royals game, I come up just for the game - get something to eat in Lee's Summit, go to the game and then drive 2 hours back home.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Fat asses complaining about having to walk 3 city blocks

But don't care about walking god knows how far from parking at Truman

[Eleazar]

Feel like tailgating is still an issue, people in this area love it and it’s part of the scene even for baseball. In a situation like the Twins have there just is no tailgating at all.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Razaele

Feel like tailgating is still an issue, people in this area love it and it’s part of the scene even for baseball. In a situation like the Twins have there just is no tailgating at all.

Can’t fit a grill on my Vespa anyhow

Well you can just eat $19 street taco baskets in an amusement park with scrolling digital ads everywhere and harry styles playing over the loudspeakers instead.

It’s the same thing really

[srvy]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I live out of town so when I come to Kansas City I want to get an experience. I live the same distance away from KC as I do St. Louis. When I go to a Cardinals game, I get a hotel downtown, walk to the game, enjoy Ballpark Village and other downtown attractions. I go to a Royals game, I come up just for the game - get something to eat in Lee's Summit, go to the game and then drive 2 hours back home.

So you can't get a room downtown and drive 6 miles to the sports complex and then back to your room and explore downtown.

[scho63]

Most rural baseball stadiums suck compare to the ones in the cities.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by srvy

So you can't get a room downtown and drive 6 miles to the sports complex and then back to your room and explore downtown.

It's a pain in the ass just living on the plaza I've been asked countless times why there isn't public transportation to the stadium. KC is way behind many other citites

[007]

OK so Arrowhead gets all the land.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

I think you are giving a lot of credit to what downtown and the crossroads was before Power and Light. It would have been amazing if downtown was more dynamic without needing a district like that but it was not the case and people simply were not living downtown or going downtown at all.

I am sympathetic to your concerns I live downtown and know first hand some of the annoying stuff about it but it was not better before. Nobody was even around to like or not like something or have an opinion on it. Not everything is a local gem in a metropolitan area Power and Light is like a ridiculous adult Disney Land its plastic and chain but has helped the area bring in more people and do more things...allowed it to turn a corner.

There are amazing local Kansas City places everywhere. Just because they are not directly across the street from an area is ok. You can still have a drink at the Campground or a pizza and beer at Caddyshack. Downtown and the surrounding area have enough for everyone. Hell even Zoo bar still shines bright.

Dude, I had a studio at 16th and Grand for ten years, and have worked in this area on and off since the late 90's.. At the beginning of that time, you could literally see tumbleweeds blowing down Grand certain times of year. Then artists started renting lofts down there. There would be rent parties, which would be live music shows, which led to actual live music venues, and art galleries, and cool little hole in the wall restaurants. It was beginning to happen, and the First Friday thing started, and early on, that was all local and grew naturally, no corporate bullshit, just like a real KC thing. Then Power and Light, and the arena, and the artists all run out for luxury loft living. Now the people in the luxury lofts are complaining about all the noise from the live music clubs and especially from Grinders, which is an outdoor smallish concert venue.

So, did 'people' go to the area before? Well, people that were part of things that were happening, yeah. People who were or were interested in art and music.

Did suburban people who want to eat chain food because that's what they know and drink $10 bud lights come by the thousands? Well, no.

Somehow people from the suburbs think things are either whitebread chain bullshit or gang war territory. It's entirely untrue and pretty insulting, really.
Not that YOU were being insulting, just that the concept of what makes a city interesting and unique is entirely lost on most people.

There is still a lot of cool stuff in the Crossroads district, but most of it will be gone soon with the rent hikes coming with a stadium build less than a mile away.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Dude, I had a studio at 16th and Grand for ten years, and have worked in this area on and off since the late 90's.. At the beginning of that time, you could literally see tumbleweeds blowing down Grand certain times of year. Then artists started renting lofts down there. There would be rent parties, which would be live music shows, which led to actual live music venues, and art galleries, and cool little hole in the wall restaurants. It was beginning to happen, and the First Friday thing started, and early on, that was all local and grew naturally, no corporate bullshit, just like a real KC thing. Then Power and Light, and the arena, and the artists all run out for luxury loft living. Now the people in the luxury lofts are complaining about all the noise from the live music clubs and especially from Grinders, which is an outdoor smallish concert venue.

So, did 'people' go to the area before? Well, people that were part of things that were happening, yeah. People who were or were interested in art and music.

Did suburban people who want to eat chain food because that's what they know and drink $10 bud lights come by the thousands? Well, no.

Somehow people from the suburbs think things are either whitebread chain bullshit or gang war territory. It's entirely untrue and pretty insulting, really.
Not that YOU were being insulting, just that the concept of what makes a city interesting and unique is entirely lost on most people.

There is still a lot of cool stuff in the Crossroads district, but most of it will be gone soon with the rent hikes coming with a stadium build less than a mile away.

I don't think those breweries & updown will go anywhere especially with First Fridays coming back business will be boomin

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Somehow people from the suburbs think things are either whitebread chain bullshit or gang war territory. It's entirely untrue and pretty insulting, really.
Not that YOU were being insulting, just that the concept of what makes a city interesting and unique is entirely lost on most people.

There is still a lot of cool stuff in the Crossroads district, but most of it will be gone soon with the rent hikes coming with a stadium build less than a mile away.

I totally agree with all of this. The perception of downtown is ridiculous and wrong.

But honestly I think one of the best things KC has done lately is stop bending over backwards for people from the suburbs who don't understand it and don't give a shit and are always going to paint it as whatever they want.

City manager Brian Platt has done a good job in this regard. He knows what cities our size should be doing to thrive and he pushes to do things like that. He doesn't pretend to care what a group guys in a barber shop in Grain Valley think about what KC needs or does not need. They do not live here and do not know anything about it and bending over backwards to try to make it more appealing and catering to them.

Just feels like PL helped establish something that we have been able to build upon. Not that it is perfect and has not had problems. Alot of the issues we face now in regard to housing are not really KC specific but that does not mean we do not need to be better at making it so more people can live in and enjoy downtown.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I don't think those breweries & updown will go anywhere especially with First Fridays coming back business will be boomin

For now.

Unless those businesses own the buildings they're in, their days will be numbered.

That's not a crazy prediction. It's exactly how all of this goes every time, in every place.

It will be generic chain stores, restaurants, and bars because only the chains will be able to cover the rent.

That's just how this goes.

It will be entirely devoid of anything authentically Kansas City. I'm sure it'll make a lot of money, and people who don't actually know the city will think it's swell, because they'll have no idea what they missed.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Reporter: "John Sherman, what is keeping the Royals from actually winning games and making the playoffs?"

John Sherman: "I'm glad you asked, it's obvious that our struggles are directly related to the ballpark not being downtown."

Damn straight!


Except that is not even close to what Sherman said.

Look, I'll be really sad to see Kauffman go, but it is what it is. It's a really old stadium that has been upgraded many times. It's time for something new.