Chiefs Andy needs to start Mahomes this year, not 2018 - Page 11

RunKC · 08-31-2017, 10:36 PM

I know we are all still trying to get our boners down from Pat's incredible showing tonight, but in reality, Mahomes is not that far away from starting.

Can anyone outline the benefit of Mahomes sitting all season compared to him playing a handful of games at the end of the season, or even taking over at midseason? The real answer here is there is no downside. He's not going to get ruined.

And let's be clear on something else: this shouldn't be Alex's "last chance no matter what season". The only way he should be starting is if he's scoring points and doing what he's never done before, which won't happen. Otherwise Pat should start when he's ready.

We all agree that the kid has made some rookie mistakes and needs to work on some things, but look at how far he's come in 3 months? Imagine how much better he'll be in 2-2 1/2 more months.

Pat took chicken shit and turned it into chicken salad. He took the starters and drove down the field and scored a TD on the Bengals starters for Christ sakes.
I get that teams aren't gameplanning for the kid, but when they do, Andy will show his value and help him as that's one of his best strengths.

The end game is already known with Alex. We might as well get this kid some time in November on and roll with him to the playoffs and see what happens.

duncan_idaho · 09-01-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

He would absolutely throw interceptions. We have seen him throw several that was saved by the booth. Peyton Freaking Manning, maybe the most cerebral QB of all time threw 28 interceptions starting his rookie year.

I get that we're all excited but stop being intellectually dishonest about this. We were all excited to have him sit a year and learn. Now we've seen the arm talent we expected to see and you're all ready to sacrifice the playoffs to see it sooner. Well playoffs don't come every year and frankly I want to enjoy every postseason I can.

The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.

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Kiimo · 09-01-2017, 11:55 AM

Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-01-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The Chiefs would absolutely not make the playoffs with Mahomes starting.

this is simply false

alex smith is solely responsible for us winning the 9 or 10 games necessary to make it to the wild card / div round...

besides....don't you want to win someday?

this isnt about this season...this is about building for a better future

BryanBusby · 09-01-2017, 11:57 AM

One and done really puts the OOMPH in January football

**The Franchise** · 09-01-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Do you not understand what I mean or something? Do you not get that those throws were bad and should be interceptions? Or do you think that the fact that they had a foot out of bounds should be the part of equation that we should bet on going forward?

The INT that was overturned because the defensive player was out of bounds hit his target in the ****ing hands. It wasn't an errant throw or a bad decision.

**The Franchise** · 09-01-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-01-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.

so you would rather watch us lose in the playoffs with smith than watch us lose with mahomes and have him learn invaluable lessons?

i respect your point of view but ...dont act like the other point of view is stupid or unreasonable

Pitt Gorilla · 09-01-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.

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This is where I am; alex should start the season, but Mahomes should keep his helmet close.

Kiimo · 09-01-2017, 12:02 PM

When this happened we all were ready to enjoy this last season of Alex Smith making the playoffs in a year where the situation is ripe to actually do some damage.

Mahomes has looked great but I'm not ready to sacrifice that in order to see him sooner. That's it. I don't think we'd make the playoffs with Mahomes and it's kind of useless to try and prove our pure speculation on that one. I think he'll throw picks galore and also look great and we'd ultimately lose.

I get that people hate Smith and hated that Steelers game, I'm right there with you. But yeah throwing away the season when we have a unique situation right now is failing to take advantage of our unique situation. I'm happy that Reid knows better than us what the best course of action is.

Rasputin · 09-01-2017, 12:11 PM

How can Patrick Mahomes II do as good as Alex Smith 15 touchdown season last year

Mile High Mania · 09-01-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

How can Patrick Mahomes II do as good as Alex Smith 15 touchdown season last year

Well. "... do as well..."

duncan_idaho · 09-01-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

When this happened we all were ready to enjoy this last season of Alex Smith making the playoffs in a year where the situation is ripe to actually do some damage.

Mahomes has looked great but I'm not ready to sacrifice that in order to see him sooner. That's it. I don't think we'd make the playoffs with Mahomes and it's kind of useless to try and prove our pure speculation on that one. I think he'll throw picks galore and also look great and we'd ultimately lose.

I get that people hate Smith and hated that Steelers game, I'm right there with you. But yeah throwing away the season when we have a unique situation right now is failing to take advantage of our unique situation. I'm happy that Reid knows better than us what the best course of action is.

Who is going to enjoy Smith's last season other than the reerun ball washers who followed him to ChiefsPlanet?

Dude, for a good portion of us here, we've been waiting for the moment Smith is gone from the second he was acquired. Many have jumped into that category since, but it's pretty goddamn obvious the guy limits the team's ability to advance in the playoffs too much for it to be overcome without an incredible streak of luck.

It's not that we're ready to throw this season away; it's that we chalked up all season's with Alex Smith as QB1 as losses from the beginning.

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Kiimo · 09-01-2017, 12:23 PM

**Bowser** · 09-01-2017, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.

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Kiimo · 09-01-2017, 12:27 PM

So when Alex starts this year, which he is doing, are you telling me you aren't going to enjoy this Chiefs season?

Really? Less than a week from opening day you've written off the season regardless of outcome because Alex Smith is the QB?

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1919611	Andy needs to start Mahomes this year, not 2018 I know we are all still trying to get our boners down from Pat's incredible showing tonight, but in reality, Mahomes is not that far away from starting. Can anyone outline the benefit of Mahomes sitting all season compared to him playing a handful of games at the end of the season, or even taking over at midseason? The real answer here is there is no downside. He's not going to get ruined. And let's be clear on something else: this shouldn't be Alex's "last chance no matter what season". The only way he should be starting is if he's scoring points and doing what he's never done before, which won't happen. Otherwise Pat should start when he's ready. We all agree that the kid has made some rookie mistakes and needs to work on some things, but look at how far he's come in 3 months? Imagine how much better he'll be in 2-2 1/2 more months. Pat took chicken shit and turned it into chicken salad. He took the starters and drove down the field and scored a TD on the Bengals starters for Christ sakes. I get that teams aren't gameplanning for the kid, but when they do, Andy will show his value and help him as that's one of his best strengths. The end game is already known with Alex. We might as well get this kid some time in November on and roll with him to the playoffs and see what happens.
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09-01-2017, 11:55 AM	#152
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Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3758742	When this happened we all were ready to enjoy this last season of Alex Smith making the playoffs in a year where the situation is ripe to actually do some damage. Mahomes has looked great but I'm not ready to sacrifice that in order to see him sooner. That's it. I don't think we'd make the playoffs with Mahomes and it's kind of useless to try and prove our pure speculation on that one. I think he'll throw picks galore and also look great and we'd ultimately lose. I get that people hate Smith and hated that Steelers game, I'm right there with you. But yeah throwing away the season when we have a unique situation right now is failing to take advantage of our unique situation. I'm happy that Reid knows better than us what the best course of action is.
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Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3758742	So when Alex starts this year, which he is doing, are you telling me you aren't going to enjoy this Chiefs season? Really? Less than a week from opening day you've written off the season regardless of outcome because Alex Smith is the QB?
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