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**Dave Lane** · 04-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Whos got some kick butt video of the greatest LB in NFL history Aaron Curry? What I've found is really pretty unimpressive. I can't see in film why he's ranked so highly. Anyone have some good video they can point me too?

Saccopoo · 04-07-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What are you going to do if we DO take Sanchez? And you do realize that if we trade down and whoever picks at #3 takes Sanchez, that validates these people's opinion as well, right?

If the Chiefs take Sanchez, I'd accept it. It wouldn't make a lot of sense, but it might give them certain options in the long run, although it does take a lot away from other areas of need that the team currently has. (And if the team were to take a qb, then I'd rather see it in the later rounds where it's not so much a question using such a high pick on what would initially be considered a pick of need for the Chiefs. If you want to get future trade material by developing a quarterback or a QBOTF, do it in the sixth round or so. Bulger, Brady, Cassel, etc., etc., etc.) It might also create a quarterback controversy that could have a negative impact on the team chemistry. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to draft Sanchez, but stranger things have happened.

It validates the need of a team that needed a quarterback and drafted up to make sure that they got a player who they felt was a guy who would fit in their system before another team drafted him. Basically, that could happen with any player. It depends on the team, and how they feel about the player. I don't think it necessarily has to do with the position. And I'm not saying that these peoples opinions are not without merit. I would have wanted the Chiefs to draft Sanchez with the three pick, but that was before the acquisition of Cassel. At this point, drafting Sanchez with that pick would be redundant and a waste seeing as how this team needs a lot more players, especially with that pick.

I can see the Chiefs trading out with another team and that team taking Curry at the #3 spot. It all depends on the team.

The problem around here is that some people seem to be completely and utterly locked into this draft position chart and this positional relevance in terms of the draft. It's like they have blinders on, and can't see anything other than the black and white aspects of it, and there is a hell of a lot more that goes on other than some guy looking at a draft value chart and "you only take this and that position with that pick" during a draft. There is a lot more grey area out there than some around here are willing to accept.

RustShack · 04-07-2009, 01:52 PM

The Lions told him he will be successful!

philfree · 04-07-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not sure how many times this has to be said...

You have NO IDEA what Pioli's draft board looks like. How are you determining who would be a "reach?"

Oh yeah, piggybacking off of Kiper or Mayock.

For all you know, Pioli has Rey Maualuga rated higher than Jesus Curry.

I believe the same applies to you so what's your point. Pioli & Co. could also have Curry rated as the top player on their board for all you know.

PhilFree

Saccopoo · 04-07-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you HONESTLY think Curry is going to be the QB of the defense?

Yep.

RustShack · 04-07-2009, 01:53 PM

He said he and teams know that he doesn't have the passrushing technique.

**The Franchise** · 04-07-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.

Hali also started for 3 years. Gaines Adams didn't start until halfway through his first year.

Saccopoo · 04-07-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

So anyone that can tie their shoes can be a solid and consistent player?

Only a ROLB or DE by your account.

RustShack · 04-07-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I believe the same applies to you so what's your point. Pioli & Co. could also have Curry rated as the top player on their board for all you know.

PhilFree

Yeah a position that wasn't highly regarded by Pioli in NE and usually filled by Veterans is #1 on Pioli's list, thats a safe assumption.

htismaqe · 04-07-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

There is a lot more grey area out there than some around here are willing to accept.

It goes both ways, though.

Some here aren't willing to acknowledge that taking a LB like Curry at #3 overall would be almost UNPRECEDENTED. It just doesn't happen, and there's a reason for it.

RustShack · 04-07-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Only a ROLB or DE by your account.

Really? I said that?

htismaqe · 04-07-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Yep.

Again, I think people have expectations of Curry that he's going to struggle to meet.

philfree · 04-07-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Yeah a position that wasn't highly regarded by Pioli in NE and usually filled by Veterans is #1 on Pioli's list, thats a safe assumption.

I'm not assuming anything.

PhilFree

htismaqe · 04-07-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I believe the same applies to you so what's your point. Pioli & Co. could also have Curry rated as the top player on their board for all you know.

PhilFree

Of course, none of us have EVER said that the Chiefs WILL take Sanchez, or anybody else for that matter.

The same can't be said for the people on the Curry side of the argument.

Saccopoo · 04-07-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God.

Seriously?

Urlacher went 9th in a bad class. Lewis was the 4th LB taken in his class. Willis was taken 11th in a bad class.

And we're supposed to just drop our pants and take Curry at 3, crossing our fingers and hoping like hell he is better than all of them?

Because he HAS to be better than all of them to justify taking a goddamn INSIDE LINEBACKER with the THIRD overall pick in the draft.

Name the last ILB that was taken in the Top 3. I think there's been ONE in the past TWENTY years.

Jesus, you whine like a bitch. All you seem to be able to do is bag on anyone who mentions taking Curry with the #3 pick and whenever pressed for your selection, all you can say is the most non-sensical of all picks - Sanchez.

I mean, seriously. You saying that you'd pick Sanchez, even after the Chiefs traded for Cassel, and then giving shit to people who want to draft Curry is the most hypocritical, dipshitiest thing I've seen on this topic.

philfree · 04-07-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Again, I think people have expectations of Curry that he's going to struggle to meet.

Obviously they're gonna have expectations for anyone the Chiefs pick with the 3rd pick and who ever that player is he's gonna struggle to meet those expectations.

PhilFree

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