Cassel VS Orton

[RustShack]

Orton in his two years in our offense-

62.1% 3,802 yards 21 TD 12 INT 86.8 Rating 7.0 YPA
58.8% 3,653 yards 20 TD 9 INT 87.5 Rating 7.3 YPA

Cassel those same last two years in the same system with better cast-

55.0% 2,924 yards 16 TD 16 INT 69.9 Rating 5.93 YPA
58.2% 3,116 yards 27 TD 7 INT 93.0 Rating 6.92 YPA

[R8RFAN]

I have always thought Wiegman was pretty good

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Dave

I've said this before, but our line is no worse than the Packers, Steelers, or Patriots.

I disagree. Those lines have the ability to adjust as the games go on. Ours just gets exposed.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by philfree

I disagree. Those lines have the ability to adjust as the games go on. Ours just gets exposed.

They adjust because of the QBs.

Ours get exposed BECAUSE of the QB.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by R8ers

I have always thought Wiegman was pretty good

He's not terrible, he's just old.

[kcxiv]

Husdon will replace Casey. No way richardson is still around next year, dude is terrible. I think our Oline isnt that bad. Palko had plenty of time to throw. One thing i liked about him is he was fast in his drop back. Cassel looks slow as **** dropping back.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Dave

They adjust because of the QBs.

Ours get exposed BECAUSE of the QB.

Why is this so hard for him understand??

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Dave

They adjust because of the QBs.

Ours get exposed BECAUSE of the QB.

It's both. I think our O line is over rated by the fans around here because of the want of a franchise QB. That want is warranted but it causes peeps to over rate our O line.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Husdon will replace Casey. No way richardson is still around next year, dude is terrible. I think our Oline isnt that bad. Palko had plenty of time to throw. One thing i liked about him is he was fast in his drop back. Cassel looks slow as **** dropping back.

Everything Cassel does can be clocked by a Sundial.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by philfree

I think our line is worse then theirs. I also believe that having the same offense in place(forever) with those players gives them a big advantage. To me I just can't see settling for even an avg o line and IMO ours is less then avg. Given the chance why wouldn't we try to improve it?

That's not the point.

There's more than a few people that thing the line is a BIGGER problem than Cassel.

Look, I'm not suggesting we don't need help on the line.

But put Aaron Rodgers behind this one and he could still be undefeated.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's not the point.

There's more than a few people that thing the line is a BIGGER problem than Cassel.

Look, I'm not suggesting we don't need help on the line.

But put Aaron Rodgers behind this one and he could still be undefeated.

To me that's a stretch.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by philfree

To me that's a stretch.

It really isn't.

This is how important the QB position is.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Dave

It really isn't.

This is how important the QB position is.

We won't agree on that...that's cool though.

Our O line sucks. There's no position where we dominate on our O line. Every position is just barely good enough. Inconsistent at every spot.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

I disagree. Those lines have the ability to adjust as the games go on. Ours just gets exposed.

Those lines adjust because they have QBs that can read defenses and make throws on time.

JFC, you're a ****ing idiot.

JFC.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by philfree

To me that's a stretch.

I'd be willing to bet both lines have performed about the same, perhaps giving the edge to KC. KC definitely has an advantage in the future (IMO) at LT, LG, and C.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

Those lines adjust because they have QBs that can read defenses and make throws on time.

JFC, you're a ****ing idiot.

JFC.

LOL Reading is fundamental.