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**alnorth** · 08:37 PM

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
CLE (14-26)	1	0	0	1	0	3	0	0	0	5	9	0
KC (21-18)	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	4	6	11	0

Cliff Lee 8IP 2R 2ER 0BB 3K
Blown Save, (2); Loss, (1-2) Kerry Wood 0.2IP 4R 4ER 1BB 0K 2HR

VS.

Brian Bannister 6IP 5R 5ER 1BB 4K 1HR
Horacio Ramirez 2IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Win, (1-3) Kyle Farnsworth 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

Home Runs

CLE

Shoppach (3) - Top 6th, 2-run homer to center

KC

Jacobs (9) - Bottom 9th, solo shot to right
Teahen (5) - Bottom 9th, solo shot to left

Starting Lineups

CLE

1. Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
2. Grady Sizemore, DH
3. Victor Martinez, 1B
4. Shin-Soo Choo, RF
5. Mark DeRosa, 3B
6. Ben Francisco, CF
7. Matt LaPorta, LF
8. Kelly Shoppach, C
9. Luis Valbuena, 2B

KC

1. Coco Crisp, CF
2. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
3. Billy Butler, 1B
4. Jose Guillen RF
5. Mike Jacobs, DH
6. Mark Teahen, 3B
7. Miguel Olivo, C
7. Mitch Maier, pr
8. David DeJesus, LF
9. Willie Bloomquist, SS

Stanley Nickels · 05-19-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw

Thank you.

Who do you guys think Bannister is?

Bannister is good, but he's good in that he's a quality back of the line starter.

Hillman did nothing wrong; you guys all just think the Royals are a lot better than they are. There's nothing wrong with that, other than it's going to be a hell of a long season for some of you.

I'm going to say this one more time, and NOT AGAIN after that. Bannister has a solid history of losing control of his pitches around 80. The bulk of his earned runs fall between 70-100-- and, yes, that's to be expected from pitchers. But it's the MANAGER'S JOB, especially in a one-run game, to know when to bring in his bullpen.

To think otherwise is, well, unwise.

**DeezNutz** · 05-19-2009, 07:45 PM

****.

Had him played perfectly.

Sure-Oz · 05-19-2009, 07:46 PM

Damn our offense sucks

Chiefless · 05-19-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

I'm going to say this one more time, and NOT AGAIN after that. Bannister has a solid history of losing control of his pitches around 80. The bulk of his earned runs fall between 70-100-- and, yes, that's to be expected from pitchers. But it's the MANAGER'S JOB, especially in a one-run game, to know when to bring in his bullpen.

To think otherwise is, well, unwise.

Then he should not be starting in the majors.

**alnorth** · 05-19-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

I'm going to say this one more time, and NOT AGAIN after that. Bannister has a solid history of losing control of his pitches around 80. The bulk of his earned runs fall between 70-100-- and, yes, that's to be expected from pitchers. But it's the MANAGER'S JOB, especially in a one-run game, to know when to bring in his bullpen.

To think otherwise is, well, unwise.

If thats true, then he should be in the bullpen. His record says otherwise

WoodDraw · 05-19-2009, 07:47 PM

P.S. And Bannister's best start of the year, he gave up [drum roll] 6 walks.

Which isn't to say he's a mystery, as much as he's not a very good pitcher. He's susceptible to everything a pitcher of his type is which is: luck, poor control, and the home run ball. Along with giving up some runs.

**alnorth** · 05-19-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

How civil of you.

Can someone get this bloke a cup of tea please.

I kind of see it another way. If we are that concerned about Olivo's safety out there on a collision then he's a pansy and should give way to a real man to catch.

Stanley Nickels · 05-19-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefless

Then he should not be starting in the majors.

The funny thing is, lack of control in higher pitch counts is the reason HOCHEVAR was in the minors so long.. until he proved he could sustain his two best pitches up to the 100 mark. Wouldn't have expected it from Banny.

**DeezNutz** · 05-19-2009, 07:48 PM

Bannister: susceptible to suck.

**petegz28** · 05-19-2009, 07:48 PM

Teahen hits more fluttering drives....they look good coming off the bat and die quick.
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Stanley Nickels · 05-19-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

If thats true, then he should be in the bullpen. His record says otherwise

Yeah. For a guy that went 9-16 in 2008, I would've expected dominance.

Mr. Krab · 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I kind of see it another way. If we are that concerned about Olivo's safety out there on a collision then he's a pansy and should give way to a real man to catch.

That has exactly what to do with "Booing" the other team as much as you possibly can?

Sure-Oz · 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bannister: susceptible to suck.

When you have pretty much zero stuff that can happen. Jamie Moyer may be the exception

**alnorth** · 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

Yeah. For a guy that went 9-16 in 2008, I would've expected dominance.

or a guy who went 12-9 for a horrible team?

**alnorth** · 05-19-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

That has exactly what to do with "Booing" the other team as much as you possibly can?

You hit our catcher! You could have hurt him! You bastard! BOOOOO!

05-19-2009, 07:47 PM	#171
WoodDraw Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005059	P.S. And Bannister's best start of the year, he gave up [drum roll] 6 walks. Which isn't to say he's a mystery, as much as he's not a very good pitcher. He's susceptible to everything a pitcher of his type is which is: luck, poor control, and the home run ball. Along with giving up some runs.
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05-19-2009, 07:48 PM	#175
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