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Old 09-27-2023, 09:13 AM  
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:47 AM   #166
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Or you can acknowledge he's significantly older and well removed from his prime.
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:50 AM   #167
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Or you can acknowledge he's significantly older and well removed from his prime.
Sure, if that makes you feel better.. this scenario is pure fantasy though. We’re transporting summer of 2017 Belichick to KC to act as GM. At that point Belichick was fresh off of a Super Bowl win against ATL and was heading to two more (one of which he’d win).
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:53 AM   #168
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Yeah. And if you actually go back and look at those games they're a hell of a lot more a product of Brady being the GOAT than anything Belicheck may have done. Hell, the way he ran the team eventually pissed Brady off so bad he threw up his hands and left to go win another championship elsewhere while Belicheck has wallowed in the quagmire of mediocrity since.
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:55 AM   #169
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His best contribution was mentally mind****ing Goff to the point they only scored 3. He deserves a ton of credit for that. But outside of that one it's been a bunch of 30+ point games by Brady carrying them through.
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:57 AM   #170
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Yeah. And if you actually go back and look at those games they're a hell of a lot more a product of Brady being the GOAT than anything Belicheck may have done. Hell, the way he ran the team eventually pissed Brady off so bad he threw up his hands and left to go win another championship elsewhere while Belicheck has wallowed in the quagmire of mediocrity since.
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Old 09-28-2023, 07:57 AM   #171
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Again, I would appreciate you not telling me what I think or not think. You can save that, please.

Though I don't think you can say you don't care, then detail precisely why you care without contradicting yourself. But I'm not your boss, contradict yourself all you want.

I don't care if people see my views as backhanded and that hurts their feelings. If they want to respond to the substance of what I have to say, I'll be right here.

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Old 09-28-2023, 08:02 AM   #172
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Yeah. And if you actually go back and look at those games they're a hell of a lot more a product of Brady being the GOAT than anything Belicheck may have done. Hell, the way he ran the team eventually pissed Brady off so bad he threw up his hands and left to go win another championship elsewhere while Belicheck has wallowed in the quagmire of mediocrity since.
Poor Tom. Only own six Super Bowls in 20 years. Boo hoo.

You’re actually rounding the bases to get back to my point, though. The HC-QB combo is more important for a team’s success than the GM. Not to say that the GM isn’t important, but you get a legendary HC-QB combo and all of a sudden those drafts and FA acquisitions start looking a hell of a lot better.

I feel like we’re talking in circles here around the elephant in the room. Can you see what I’m saying? The hypothetical Staylor posed asked me which GMs I thought would be able to replicate the same success we’ve enjoyed over the last 6 years with Veach, aka a budding dynasty. BelichickGM has built two full-fledged dynasties with the help of a GOAT HC-QB combo. He’s got a GOAT HC-AB combo here. Can you agree that it is possible that he’d do the same here since he has already done it twice before under similar circumstances?
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Old 09-28-2023, 08:15 AM   #173
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You're operating this exercise under the assumption we'd be getting the same guy from the 2000s and mid 2010s. That's the problem. We're not. There was a period where he'd pull at least pro bowl caliber talent on defense every single offseason. Hell, that core he built during that period was STILL mostly intact when we played in the AFC Championship game. As they've aged out and left the roster has gotten significantly weaker overall as he's failed to backfill through the draft and free agency. Since, you know, he's significantly older and not nearly as good as he once was
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Old 09-28-2023, 08:24 AM   #174
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Old 09-28-2023, 08:31 AM   #176
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This has been a strange thread.
It contains an impressive level of bickering, even by CP's lofty standards
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Who's starting the Thursday Night Disappointment game thread? I don't even know who's playing.
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Old 09-28-2023, 08:34 AM   #179
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Chiefsplanet honestly needs a bit of burst to liven things up.
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Who's starting the Thursday Night Disappointment game thread? I don't even know who's playing.
Lions-Packers. Might actually be decent.
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