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Old 10-09-2011, 12:19 PM  
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I'm going to go ahead and call it...
Todd Haley will be fired within a month. Possibly before our next game.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:05 PM   #181
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The only way Pioli would fire Haley for switching QB's is if it completely ****ing flopped and blew the Chiefs chances of making the playoffs.
That is speculative on your part. Pioli may have a development plan for Stanzi, or just not want to see 12MM (or whatever Cassel's stupid salary is) sitting on the bench. Further, it is possible that Cassel still gives us a better chance to win than Stanzi. It wouldn't actually surprise me that much.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:06 PM   #182
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My point is, if you have a stud QB, you can overcome a lot.
My point is, if you have a competent head coach, you don't get beat 89-10, regardless of injuries.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:07 PM   #183
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That is speculative on your part. Pioli may have a development plan for Stanzi, or just not want to see 12MM (or whatever Cassel's stupid salary is) sitting on the bench. Further, it is possible that Cassel still gives us a better chance to win than Stanzi. It wouldn't actually surprise me that much.
It's not speculative at all. No GM is going to fire someone for making a move to try and better the team. If he does then I say GL trying to get that respectable HC you want to come in and coach someone elses team.

Pioli isn't the one writing the checks, btw.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:11 PM   #184
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:16 PM   #185
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My point is, if you have a competent head coach, you don't get beat 89-10, regardless of injuries.
Most of those points were scored off turnovers. Haley made Cassel throw INTs?
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:27 PM   #186
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I am about as big of a "cassel-hater" as you can find, but I still can't answer that. I don't have enough information. The head coach might. Hell, he might even agree with you but be unable to pull Cassel due to pressure from Pioli.
I know Pioli thought Cassel was the answer for this team when he traded for him. But god damn he sees the same games we do plus a lot more of his bullshit at practice and on tape. He has to have figured it out by now he is not the answer. I just hope he can do some magic this off season. Remember when we traded for him, how bad McDanials wanted him.So they both saw something in NE they liked. I don't know what. We sure as shit haven't seen it here. I don't know if Stanzi is quite NFL ready. But I sure would like to see his ass at least activated for games. I was somewhat impressed with him in preseason. Who the fuck knows.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:28 PM   #187
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It's not speculative at all. No GM is going to fire someone for making a move to try and better the team. If he does then I say GL trying to get that respectable HC you want to come in and coach someone elses team.

Pioli isn't the one writing the checks, btw.
Good point. True that.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:29 PM   #188
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I know Pioli thought Cassel was the answer for this team when he traded for him. But god damn he sees the same games we do plus a lot more of his bullshit at practice and on tape. He has to have figured it out by now he is not the answer. I just hope he can do some magic this off season. Remember when we traded for him, how bad McDanials wanted him.So they both saw something in NE they liked. I don't know what. We sure as shit haven't seen it here. I don't know if Stanzi is quite NFL ready. But I sure would like to see his ass at least activated for games. I was somewhat impressed with him in preseason. Who the fuck knows.
I am convinced Cassel in practice looks like an ace, but can't hold up in the tempo and pressure of a game.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:34 PM   #189
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I am convinced Cassel in practice looks like an ace, but can't hold up in the tempo and pressure of a game.
This is true. But he has to see the tape over and over of how he can't handle it. Everyone says it's his ego with Cassel. Bullshit. He wants to win. This is his first GM job and wants to hold on to it. I have faith in him. For now.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:39 PM   #190
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This is true. But he has to see the tape over and over of how he can't handle it. Everyone says it's his ego with Cassel. Bullshit. He wants to win. This is his first GM job and wants to hold on to it. I have faith in him. For now.
Oh I agree with you. I suspect Cassel was either a stop-gap OR a "stab-at-a-franchise-qb" which got turned into a stop-gap. He probably hadn't found another QB which he thought was franchise QB material. Frankly, he was probably right.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:18 AM   #192
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The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
Thats bullshit and you know it.

Chan Gailey was forced on Haley as was Weis after him. So was Romeo Crennel, too.

I know you know this, Clancy was never hired as the DC he was hired as a defensive assistant that didnt get a title until Romeo turned down the job in 2009.

Couple that with being handcuffed to Cassel and a worthless draft... you absolutely have to dish out some of the blame for that years failure on Haley for not working things out with Gailey (which at the time I saw as a huge mistake and as it turns out, it probably was)

I think what Haley has done in keeping this team together and his motivational tools is pretty impressive.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:23 AM   #193
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The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.
hindsight genius. if only we could see the future somehow....
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I am torn on Haley. I think that keeping the team together after their horrible first two games is impressive.

I don't care how bad Minnesota and Indy are, they are NFL teams. And, Minnesota had no trouble with Arizona. Minnesota also built pretty sizeable leads against every team except the Chiefs.... they just couldn't finish.

Indy played poorly with an 'over the hill', I don't know the playbook, Collins. But, after he was injured/benched.... Painter has played well and the Colts have really hung in there. They got to within 3 of the Steelers after Painter came in.... and they had the lead on the Bucs for most of the MNF game last week.

Oh, and the Chiefs hung in there against the Chargers.

Yeah, the first two weeks sucked..... but those two teams are pretty good and the Chiefs just weren't ready. Oh, and they lost one of their best players on both sides of the ball.

I am okay with the Chiefs getting a new head coach.... I am just not sold on Haley. But, I am also okay with him sticking for another year or two to see how things develop.
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My point is, if you have a competent head coach, you don't get beat 89-10, regardless of injuries.
So, what is your opinion of Andy Reid?
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