Chiefs How Much Success Will Alex Smith Have as Chiefs QB? - Page 13

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2013, 02:00 PM

Poll forthcoming.

milkman · 02-28-2013, 10:50 PM

Second, I was on record when Reid wasz hired that. I didn't like it, so thinking he is't all that is how I've always tbought.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

A 2-14 team should be able to improve much more than what it looks like we are going to do. We handcuffed ourselves and are going to miss out on the 34th pick which means we have basically no hope of getting a legitimate developmental QB.

Whoever we draft now with the first pick will make almost no difference in terms of wins/losses and will be a reach anyways.

If we draft Joekel and lose Albert we will have traded Albert, Cassel, the 34th pick, a conditional pick, and the first overall pick for Alex Smith and Luke Joekell. That is just sad to me.

Too many ifs

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Second, I was on record when Reid wasz hired that. I didn't like it, so thinking he is't all that is how I've always tbought.

But you don't like anybody, so this is no surprise.

**dirk digler** · 02-28-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not making any predictions. I'm stating that most of the posts in this thread and others were made by people that have ever even seen Alex Smith play and hate the trade because he Chiefs decided against a QB the draft.

I am tired of getting some other teams rejects. We should be drafting our own rejects.

milkman · 02-28-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You drunk, Milkman?

Posting from my phone, and I suck at this litte key board.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am tired of getting some other teams rejects. We should be drafting our own rejects.

Sounds like a great plan.

"Hey guys, we're going to draft a piece of shit QB, play him for three years in hopes that he's not a complete failure while wasting the final years of Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson. Oh, and we'll continue to run the best running back in franchise history into the ground while we win 4 games a year. K?".

milkman · 02-28-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I don't understand why people can't accept that no suitable QB, for whatever reason, appealed to Dorsey and Reid in the 2013 draft.

That doesn't mean that they will never draft and develop a QB. It means they didn't want to waste their time on a prospect they didn't believe in this year.

And if they win and win big, no one will give a shit how he was acquired.

I can't accept it because I find the whole argument that these QBs are not azs good asz ones coming out the years before last to be utter bullshit.

Hootie · 02-28-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sounds like a great plan.

"Hey guys, we're going to draft a piece of shit QB, play him for three years in hopes that he's not a complete failure while wasting the final years of Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson. Oh, and we'll continue to run the best running back in franchise history into the ground while we win 4 games a year. K?".

which is fine if we gave up a 4th and a conditional 4th in 2014 that could move up to a 2nd (or even a ****ing 1st if he lit the world on fire)...

not fine for what we *reportedly* gave him...

the dude has limitations that sicken me...it's like, toss a coin and you might get Dilfer, toss it again and you might get Green...toss it again and you'll never get Rodgers

milkman · 02-28-2013, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sounds like a great plan.

"Hey guys, we're going to draft a piece of shit QB, play him for three years in hopes that he's not a complete failure while wasting the final years of Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson. Oh, and we'll continue to run the best running back in franchise history into the ground while we win 4 games a year. K?".

We are going to be doing exactly that with Alex Smith.

mr. tegu · 02-28-2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Too many ifs

I hope I am wrong but that is how I see it playing out now. I am positive Reid can keep Smith being an efficient passer, but I just hate being stuck with another game manager and a QB that has physical limits that many others simply don't have.

If they make a concerted effort to go downfield I will be shocked but very happy. That is what I want to see. I want to see the underneath patterns actually resulting with room to run. I see so many teams have guys coming across the middle with no one near because the defense is stepping backwards before the snap instead of forward towards the line of scrimmage.

fabie · 02-28-2013, 11:01 PM

Hello Chiefs' fans....I'm from the 49ers forum and NOT A TROLL. I am simply here to give you some heads up about Alex Smith. I have been a 49ers fan since 1980 and so I have no time for childish stuffs.

I really admired Alex Smith and am a bit known in our boards as an Alex homer. I am a staunch West Coast Offense supporter, big Bill Walsh supporter and of course now Jim Harbaugh supporter.

I also like Coach Andy Reid for being a Holmgren disciple and a WCO proponent and in this light you have reasons to be optimistic with Alex Smith. Alex Smith was subjected under unfair conditions with Coach Noland and Singletary both whom are responsible for the 49ers' demise for the last 8 years while in SF. Both have no clue how to coach, let alone both have no clue in any inclination in offense whatsoever.

Both also didn't support Alex Smith with an OC (remember he went through 7 years with different OCs everytime!) who can't really create any kind of momentum...bad offensive line and all.

And so with Andy Reid at the helm he would know how to use Alex Smith. He's gotten polished a bit under Jim Harbaugh in terminology and short/medium passing. So don't be panicking. He is stable and doesn't turn the ball over within the WCO.

He will be patient, and will get sack at most if there's no open "receivers". And thus the main key is the O-line, the running game and the playcalling to get him going. I will not BS you guys. He is a heady competitor and very efficient in the WCO.

Just don't expect anything spectacular. What he can give you is consistency and remember what he did against The Saints in the NFCCG last year? Well he was consistent and he loves the TE position (so sexual puns...bwahaha).

And so that's my 2 cents and wishing you guys luck.

**dirk digler** · 02-28-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sounds like a great plan.

"Hey guys, we're going to draft a piece of shit QB, play him for three years in hopes that he's not a complete failure while wasting the final years of Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson. Oh, and we'll continue to run the best running back in franchise history into the ground while we win 4 games a year. K?".

We have tried your way for 30 years and it hasn't worked out. I am not a Geno ball washer I just wanted them to identify the best QB out of the bunch and draft that guy.

Hammock Parties · 02-28-2013, 11:03 PM

There is absolutely no way anyone can make such a far-reaching judgment on any of these QBs that it rules them out in favor of Alex Smith.

You're basically saying there isn't a single game manager who's good at dumping the ball off in this draft.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

We have tried your way for 30 years and it hasn't worked out. I am not a Geno ball washer I just wanted them to identify the best QB out of the bunch and draft that guy.

My way?

I lobbied for Brees in 2001. I lobbied for Sanchez in 2009. I lobbied for Clausen in 2010. I said the Chiefs should have given up every draft choice in 2012 and their first in 2013 for RGIII.

You're ****ing stupid.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

There is absolutely no way anyone can make such a far-reaching judgment on any of these QBs that it rules them out in favor of Alex Smith.

You're basically saying there isn't a single game manager who's good at dumping the ball off in this draft.

Riiiiight. If that was so easy, why get rid of Cassel?

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Super Bowl Loss	3	1.23%
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Divisional Round Loss (w/o a playoff win)	16	6.58%
Divisional Round Loss (w/ a WC win)	37	15.23%
WC Loss	65	26.75%
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fabie Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Hello Chiefs' fans....I'm from the 49ers forum and NOT A TROLL. I am simply here to give you some heads up about Alex Smith. I have been a 49ers fan since 1980 and so I have no time for childish stuffs. I really admired Alex Smith and am a bit known in our boards as an Alex homer. I am a staunch West Coast Offense supporter, big Bill Walsh supporter and of course now Jim Harbaugh supporter. I also like Coach Andy Reid for being a Holmgren disciple and a WCO proponent and in this light you have reasons to be optimistic with Alex Smith. Alex Smith was subjected under unfair conditions with Coach Noland and Singletary both whom are responsible for the 49ers' demise for the last 8 years while in SF. Both have no clue how to coach, let alone both have no clue in any inclination in offense whatsoever. Both also didn't support Alex Smith with an OC (remember he went through 7 years with different OCs everytime!) who can't really create any kind of momentum...bad offensive line and all. And so with Andy Reid at the helm he would know how to use Alex Smith. He's gotten polished a bit under Jim Harbaugh in terminology and short/medium passing. So don't be panicking. He is stable and doesn't turn the ball over within the WCO. He will be patient, and will get sack at most if there's no open "receivers". And thus the main key is the O-line, the running game and the playcalling to get him going. I will not BS you guys. He is a heady competitor and very efficient in the WCO. Just don't expect anything spectacular. What he can give you is consistency and remember what he did against The Saints in the NFCCG last year? Well he was consistent and he loves the TE position (so sexual puns...bwahaha). And so that's my 2 cents and wishing you guys luck.
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