Off-season WR possibilities

[Reerun_KC]

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We need 3 good WR's. Not one super star eating up the cap. Hurts has two star WR's and he still struggling.

1 of those WR's is on a rookie contract and the Eagles run a high school styled offense...

WR is a position that gets paid, and if you want 2 more good WRs that costs money.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by ArrowHeader

Tag and trade is gonna happen. They can’t afford him with Burrows Godzilla contract and Chase is gonna get extended to the moon. Lot of pieces will move in Pissinatti to keep team intact.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Can they afford to tag him with all the contracts they have due? They should be in a situation similar to us with Jones. Except Higgins should have a much bigger market.

Based on estimates, with the current cap space and the total cap going up next year, the Bengals have the 6th most money to play with, 68.7M. There are only 2 potential playoff teams that have more. The Colts and Texans and both have a QB on a rookie deal for multiple years to come.

The Chiefs have less than half that. 30.5M and Mahomes hit over the next 2 years is 57 and 60M.

Burrow's hit next year is only 29M. The next 2 years after that, while the cap is still going up, his hits are only 46 and 48M. He doesn't hit 50+ until 2027.

[Hoover]

I don't know why people think the fix at WR is top WR that we need to trade for and pay, a 1st round draft pick, and another draft pick.

Calm the **** down.

We have Rice, lets just tap the breaks on him and say he's a really nice #2 wr on a rookie contract with lots of upside.

We still have Travis Kelce. Ok maybe the mileage is getting high, but he's still ****ing phenomenal.

If you sign a FA, like a legit FA like Evan, you have fixed most of your problems. Yes still invest another high draft pick in the position, like a 2nd or 3rd rounder cause you need a LT too. Anyway, the key out of this mess is free agency and nothing else.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Based on estimates, with the current cap space and the total cap going up next year, the Bengals have the 6th most money to play with, 68.7M. There are only 2 potential playoff teams that have more. The Colts and Texans and both have a QB on a rookie deal for multiple years to come.

The Chiefs have less than half that. 30.5M and Mahomes hit over the next 2 years is 57 and 60M.

Burrow's hit next year is only 29M. The next 2 years after that, while the cap is still going up, his hits are only 46 and 48M. He doesn't hit 50+ until 2027.

That does not matter unless Veach lets it matter.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Can they afford to tag him with all the contracts they have due? They should be in a situation similar to us with Jones. Except Higgins should have a much bigger market.

Unless I am reading Over The Cap wrong, they are in a lot better shape than we are. Burrows only counts 29 million next year. They have 38 players under contract. And 68 million in cap space.

Mahomes counts 57 million against the cap next year. We have 36 players under contract. One of them being Jones. Jones has an 80 dollar cap hit, but a 5.4 million dead money thing going on. And we have 35.8 million in cap space.

I'm not sure we are doing anything massive in 2024. We have way too much invested in 4 or 5 guys, and we really can't get out of much of it for a couple of years.

KC Over The Cap:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs

Bengals Over The Cap:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Unless I am reading Over The Cap wrong, they are in a lot better shape than we are. Burrows only counts 29 million next year. They have 38 players under contract. And 68 million in cap space.

Mahomes counts 57 million against the cap next year. We have 36 players under contract. One of them being Jones. Jones has an 80 dollar cap hit, but a 5.4 million dead money thing going on. And we have 35.8 million in cap space.

I'm not sure we are doing anything massive in 2024. We have way too much invested in 4 or 5 guys, and we really can't get out of much of it for a couple of years.

Mahomes has a cap hit of 28 million in 2028.

So Veach can just use that number for Mahomes next year.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

That does not matter unless Veach lets it matter.

Sure, you can keep pushing money around but it doesn't just disappear. Ask the Saints and Steelers how much fun it is constantly renegotiating contracts.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2024/

Take a look at the bottom of that list. Teams that keep giving out bad contracts like they're candy and pushing money around every year, **** themselves in the ass with a rusty crow bar.

[ArrowHeader]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Based on estimates, with the current cap space and the total cap going up next year, the Bengals have the 6th most money to play with, 68.7M. There are only 2 potential playoff teams that have more. The Colts and Texans and both have a QB on a rookie deal for multiple years to come.

The Chiefs have less than half that. 30.5M and Mahomes hit over the next 2 years is 57 and 60M.

Burrow's hit next year is only 29M. The next 2 years after that, while the cap is still going up, his hits are only 46 and 48M. He doesn't hit 50+ until 2027.

Not keeping higgy he gone

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Mahomes has a cap hit of 28 million in 2028.

So Veach can just use that number for Mahomes next year.

I'm not sure how that works, but extending guys has us in this position. We have to get away from this IMO.

[ptlyon]

DOOOOM

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Sure, you can keep pushing money around but it doesn't just disappear. Ask the Saints and Steelers how much fun it is constantly renegotiating contracts.

But that's exactly what other teams are doing with their QB deals. Push the larger cap hits as far down the road as possible. Lamar's a good example of it. Very large cash flow with pretty low cap hits compared to the cash.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Mahomes has a cap hit of 28 million in 2028.

So Veach can just use that number for Mahomes next year.

You can't just pick and choose a different year to pay someone in the upcoming season. The entire contract has to be re-done and all that money eventually comes due.

You gonna pay a 37 year old Mahomes 75M for a couple years?

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by ArrowHeader

Not keeping higgy he gone

You may have a Vert Peach but we have a Tuke Dobbins and a Baity Clackburn.

[poolboy]

You can't just pick and choose a different year to pay someone in the upcoming season. The entire contract has to be re-done and all that money eventually comes due.

You gonna pay a 37 year old Mahomes 75M for a couple years?[/QUOTE]


thats what I would do

[Eleazar]

We have Rice, just draft someone who has the possibility of contributing right away, and sign a veteran or two.

All I really want to see is them spend a 1st on a quality WR who isn't an undersized tweener