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Old 12-24-2023, 03:27 PM  
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Off-season WR possibilities
Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:11 PM   #166
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Still think the free agency market will be friendlier than we think. Tampa is a classic example. They’re getting baker for free and seem intent on giving him a large deal. They have cap space but after years and years of punting on the cap to load groceries for Brady, they have to basically re-sign their entire team.

Even if we don’t get tee Higgins or Pittman, some team will pick them up which will make it harder to pay their other guys. I think we’ll see a little of this reset this year but in the coming years it’s going to get HARD considering the crazy amount of WR talent that are still on rookie contract.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:11 PM   #167
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I think Evans will as well. Unless they find terms in the short pre-free agency window, and that seems unlikely.

It’s similar to the Jones situation with the Chiefs.
Then you're faced with the dilemma Jones is staring at - who is going to pay premium bucks for a guy on the other side of 30, if not the original team?
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:12 PM   #168
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Still think the free agency market will be friendlier than we think. Tampa is a classic example. They’re getting baker for free and seem intent on giving him a large deal. They have cap space but after years and years of punting on the cap to load groceries for Brady, they have to basically re-sign their entire team.

Even if we don’t get tee Higgins or Pittman, some team will pick them up which will make it harder to pay their other guys. I think we’ll see a little of this reset this year but in the coming years it’s going to get HARD considering the crazy amount of WR talent that are still on rookie contract.
Otherwise known as the Christian Kirk Principle.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:30 PM   #169
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Maybe I havent seen enough colts film but I never penciled Pittman in as a strong fit. And most of what ive seen of higgins hes not an a+ fit. I'd say Hollywood or Ridley are more ideal. Ridleys still on a rookie deal because of suspensions, So he will want to be paid. But I think he checks all the boxes. He knows the offense a little after a run with Pederson, can threaten anywhere on the field and doesnt have a drops problem that im aware of.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:31 PM   #170
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Ridley is 29, Veach ain't giving him a big deal...he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire this year either.

Higgins is a great fit but I think Cincy tags and trades him (they ain't trading him to us) or just flat out tags him...
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:37 PM   #171
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We are currently picking at 25. We arent talking jumping from 32 to 15 here.
That still doesn't answer how you plan on getting there? 2 teams that are within 10-15 absolutely will not trading with us, Denver and Las Vegas. That leaves 3 picks, which I'm sure not many teams want to help us move up in the draft for a receiving option for Mahomes. So you are likely left with the option to overspend to move up. We have 6 picks this year at this point. The amount of positions that will need to be addressed in the offseason through FA and the draft, I can't see how trading away picks to move up for either short or long term goals will equal success for the short term, or the long term. If we are going to be trading picks for WR's, I'd rather trade away the 25th pick for WR in FA that can hit the ground running than a draft pick.
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Ridley is 29, Veach ain't giving him a big deal...he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire this year either.

Higgins is a great fit but I think Cincy tags and trades him (they ain't trading him to us) or just flat out tags him...
His up and down year probably makes him a canidate for a funny contract with inflated incentive numbers to make him feel like hes in the big market while having some weird years in year 31,32..
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:47 PM   #173
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Maybe I havent seen enough colts film but I never penciled Pittman in as a strong fit. And most of what ive seen of higgins hes not an a+ fit. I'd say Hollywood or Ridley are more ideal. Ridleys still on a rookie deal because of suspensions, So he will want to be paid. But I think he checks all the boxes. He knows the offense a little after a run with Pederson, can threaten anywhere on the field and doesnt have a drops problem that im aware of.
Pittman would be a no brainer as you get an automatic #1WR that’s entering prime.

Just don’t see Indy not paying him anymore, they love him.
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Pittman would be a no brainer as you get an automatic #1WR that’s entering prime.

Just don’t see Indy not paying him anymore, they love him.
He's all they got on the outside with a 2nd year QB returning next year...yeah they ain't letting him go lol.
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Ridley is 29, Veach ain't giving him a big deal...he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire this year either.

Higgins is a great fit but I think Cincy tags and trades him (they ain't trading him to us) or just flat out tags him...
Tag and trade is gonna happen. They can’t afford him with Burrows Godzilla contract and Chase is gonna get extended to the moon. Lot of pieces will move in Pissinatti to keep team intact.
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Tag and trade is gonna happen. They can’t afford him with Burrows Godzilla contract and Chase is gonna get extended to the moon. Lot of pieces will move in Pissinatti to keep team intact.
Can they afford to tag him with all the contracts they have due? They should be in a situation similar to us with Jones. Except Higgins should have a much bigger market.
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He's all they got on the outside with a 2nd year QB returning next year...yeah they ain't letting him go lol.
We missed moving up for Zay Flowers last year. We need to focus on getting our star WR for the future now. If there’s a guy we can move up for get aggressive if he’s special.
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We missed moving up for Zay Flowers last year. We need to focus on getting our star WR for the future now. If there’s a guy we can move up for get aggressive if he’s special.
I would say something but this place goes insane when I bring up a certain someone's name that we already had and wasn't just a star but a unicorn...
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I would say something but this place goes insane when I bring up a certain someone's name that we already had and wasn't just a star but a unicorn...
He also plays for a team we beat and didn't get another ring while we did. So Hill isn't some SB team leader.
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We need 3 good WR's. Not one super star eating up the cap. Hurts has two star WR's and he still struggling.
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