Chiefs Chiefs discussing Thuney trade [confirmed] - Page 13

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And I know people have their quibbles with PFF, but their grades match my eye test.

He was nothing resembling good, and was downright BAD in the playoffs.

Regular season:

64.7 overall (56th out of 141 OT's)
70.4 passing (49th of 141)
59.9 rushing (75th of 141)

Playoffs:

51.2 overall (34th of 40 OT's)
39.5 passing (35th of 40)
60.7 rushing (17th of 40)

Joe Thuney graded out better.

I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.

Hoover · 03-05-2025, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.

Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.

**SAGA45** · 03-05-2025, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.

I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.

**ChiTown** · 03-05-2025, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45

I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.

Ready to step in when?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-05-2025, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.

I firmly believe it's gonna be someone like that.

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I firmly believe it's gonna be someone like that.

Tyron is probbaly a 1/10 or 2/18 type of deal but they couldn't have even done that before this trade.

kccrow · 03-05-2025, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And I know people have their quibbles with PFF, but their grades match my eye test.

He was nothing resembling good, and was downright BAD in the playoffs.

Regular season:

64.7 overall (56th out of 141 OT's)
70.4 passing (49th of 141)
59.9 rushing (75th of 141)

Playoffs:

51.2 overall (34th of 40 OT's)
39.5 passing (35th of 40)
60.7 rushing (17th of 40)

Joe Thuney graded out better.

When I ran the pressure data and looked at the top tackles in meaningful snaps, I had 36 RTs and 40 LTs.

He was 37th out of 40 LTs and 71st out of 76 OTs in Pressure %
He was 35th out of 40 LTs and 69th out of 76 OTs in Negative Play %

That aligns pretty well with their Grades and the entirety really puts him in backup territory as a player.

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:15 AM

It's time for a bit of a reset we all knew this was coming. In the past the Chiefs hadn't been a team to pay older players they made some exceptions going for the 3 peat, time to get younger again.

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:20 AM

Also is this a move so they can pay Bolton?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-05-2025, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Also is this a move so they can pay Bolton?

Another reason why I don't think they'll go after the 1st Tier LT's.

The more I look around I think DJ is coming back on the cheap - Spotrac had his market value at like $2M - and he's self-repped, or way off the grid with a signing or trade we're not expecting.

staylor26 · 03-05-2025, 11:23 AM

I will say this. I'd love to see them flip that pick next year to get a 5th this year and double dip at RB.

Can you imagine if we got Dylan Sampson and Damien Martinez?

Or Tuten and Gordon?

CatfishBob2 · 03-05-2025, 11:27 AM

All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot

That isn't what the offense wants to do, Andy wants more guys out in the pattern.

Iconic · 03-05-2025, 11:39 AM

yep. as said before - veach was not going to play the tag game with trey if he didn't think the dice would roll his way.

get a deal done with trey. net a 4th. keep the younger asset. profit. what a great start to the off-season man. best mother ****ing GM in football and he's ours.

Mecca · 03-05-2025, 11:52 AM

Boltons 24 years old it's hard for me to think they don't want a second contract there.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-622950	It's time for a bit of a reset we all knew this was coming. In the past the Chiefs hadn't been a team to pay older players they made some exceptions going for the 3 peat, time to get younger again.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-2020960	I will say this. I'd love to see them flip that pick next year to get a 5th this year and double dip at RB. Can you imagine if we got Dylan Sampson and Damien Martinez? Or Tuten and Gordon?
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CatfishBob2 Starter Join Date: Jan 2018 Casino cash: $-719600	All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot
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Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $1640360	yep. as said before - veach was not going to play the tag game with trey if he didn't think the dice would roll his way. get a deal done with trey. net a 4th. keep the younger asset. profit. what a great start to the off-season man. best mother **ing GM in football and he's ours. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley**
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-622950	Boltons 24 years old it's hard for me to think they don't want a second contract there.
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