Chiefs discussing Thuney trade [confirmed]

[siberian khatru]

The Kansas City Chiefs are engaged in trade discussions surrounding 4x Super Bowl champion Joe Thuney, per sources.

Chicago is one of the teams interested in the 2x All-Pro. pic.twitter.com/N7YDehEFDM

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) March 5, 2025

Sources: The #Bears are expected to trade for #Chiefs All-Pro G Joe Thuney, as the Chicago continues to load up on the offensive line.

KC gets a bit younger, plus frees up some money to use elsewhere. pic.twitter.com/P0GdAd0WtW

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 5, 2025

Compensation update; Bears are trading a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Chiefs for Pro-Bowl OL Joe Thuney, per source. https://t.co/QAcfND57By

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 5, 2025

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.

I firmly believe it's gonna be someone like that.

[Mecca]

It's time for a bit of a reset we all knew this was coming. In the past the Chiefs hadn't been a team to pay older players they made some exceptions going for the 3 peat, time to get younger again.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And I know people have their quibbles with PFF, but their grades match my eye test.

He was nothing resembling good, and was downright BAD in the playoffs.


Regular season:

64.7 overall (56th out of 141 OT's)
70.4 passing (49th of 141)
59.9 rushing (75th of 141)

Playoffs:

51.2 overall (34th of 40 OT's)
39.5 passing (35th of 40)
60.7 rushing (17th of 40)


Joe Thuney graded out better.

When I ran the pressure data and looked at the top tackles in meaningful snaps, I had 36 RTs and 40 LTs.

He was 37th out of 40 LTs and 71st out of 76 OTs in Pressure %
He was 35th out of 40 LTs and 69th out of 76 OTs in Negative Play %

That aligns pretty well with their Grades and the entirety really puts him in backup territory as a player.

[CatfishBob2]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Some of you guys seem to think guys have way more value than they do, a really good LT you can get a 1, good RT is a 2, top of the line guard is gonna be a 3/4 Center is probably the same.

If the Chiefs put Creed Humphrey up for trade the offer they would get is probably right about what they spent on his draft pick.

I didn't expect a whole lot for Thuney. Like I said a few pages back, I've been playing around for weeks with mocks trading him to the Bears. I thought a pick swap and/or a late round pick might be rich but doable for an All Pro guard. But it's not just Thuney. I thought we got less for Tyreek, Sneed, etc

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Something to keep in mind. Kingsley is an elite G prospect in terms of size, strength and athleticism. Here’s how he would rank at G in this years combine.

40-tied for 3rd
10-tied for 2nd
Bench-2nd

He has elite athleticism. We saw that right away in camp. Dude can ****ing move on pulls or screens.

We saw him do a more than solid job vs a top 5 interior rusher in Denver. I think he’s got a chance to be a rock solid G for us.

And if he is then the 2024 draft class suddenly looks like an A

What?

Kingsley is an elite LT prospect, he's just raw. This is weird.

I really think they used him at G to get him some game snapyis all.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I firmly believe it's gonna be someone like that.

Tyron is probbaly a 1/10 or 2/18 type of deal but they couldn't have even done that before this trade.

[ClearmontChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

good points and that is fair.

Good point except for the comp pick comment. There is no comp picks awarded for trades. That’s a free agent losses vs gains calculation. But, a 4th round pick for a 33 yr old expensive guard is pretty decent return.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

What?

Kingsley is an elite LT prospect, he's just raw. This is weird.

I really think they used him at G to get him some game snapyis all.

I really really doubt they are gonna put a young LT and a young LG side by side, I just don't see that.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by TRR

I thought Cam Robinson played much better in a competent offense than he did with in that Jacksonville mess. If you're signing Cam Robinson, you're betting he's more of that guy. Either way, I disagree that he's a turnstile.

I don't have access to per game grades, but after a Google search found them for the playoff game.

Dude got ABUSED. 12 pressures and a sack allowed.

51.2 overall
39.5 passing

Rushing grade isn't listed in the article.

[Mecca]

Also is this a move so they can pay Bolton?

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I know we're not getting an elite LT.

Hell, I'm one of the few that think it's gonna be a wildcard.

We have limited resources - Veach has flat out said the output needs to match the money, they aren't just gonna throw money around to fill a need.

Read: I'm not paying Cam Robinson $20M per for 3 years when I can get the same production or 80-90% of it for way less and be able to grab another asset.

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong - but I'd be absolutely shocked to see us get in a bidding war for Stanley or Robinson with teams with virtually unlimited cap space.

I personally don't think there's much of a difference between Stanley/Robinson and the 2nd tier, especially when you factor in money and injury history.

We'll see what Veach thinks in the coming days/weeks.

I hear you.

The left tackle problem is a tough one and a more pressing need than most for me because it’s a problem that has cascading effects that diminishes the value of a lot of other players on the roster.

Poor LT play is diminishing Mahomes value because he isn’t able to play up to his massive contract when he doesn’t trust the tackle, runs around like a maniac and doesn’t see the field.

When that causes Mahomes to play below his value it subsequently causes guys like Worthy to lose value when Patrick can’t get them the ball because he’s too busy bailing on pockets and dropping his eyes to see him streaking open downfield.

When you add all that up, all of a sudden you’re losing a TON of value on offense because one position is a mess.

I guess I’m not breaking any new information here, but it does illustrate how imperative it is that we fix this this offseason, or at least stabilize it to where the offense can function.

[KCJake]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I’m shocked at the number of people who seem surprised by this.

How is anyone surprised anymore when Veach trades guys who are coming off great years?

It’s these moves in conjunction with nailing subsequent draft picks that give you a shot to remain a step ahead of an always tough AFC and now AFCW.

People are surprised because we all just watched our offensive line get ran-sacked. Completely embarrassed in the Super Bowl. We never had a chance in that game because we couldn't block anybody. One month later, we're trading away our best offensive lineman.

If you look at the entire picture, salary cap, the hole at left tackle, it's probably the right move to make. On the surface you can understand people's surprise.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

I hear you.

The left tackle problem is a tough one and a more pressing need than most for me because it’s a problem that has cascading effects that diminishes the value of a lot of other players on the roster.

Poor LT play is diminishing Mahomes value because he isn’t able to play up to his massive contract when he doesn’t trust the tackle and runs around like a maniac and doesn’t play up to his standard.

When that causes Mahomes to play below his value it subsequently causes guys like Worthy to lose value when Patrick can’t get them the ball because he’s too busy bailing on pockets and dropping his eyes to see him streaking open downfield.

When you add all that up, all of a sudden you’re losing a TON of value on offense because one position is a mess.

I guess I’m not breaking any new information here, but it does illustrate how imperative it is that we fix this this offseason, or at least stabilize it to where the offense can function.

Well said, and I agree. We have to trust that Veach and Co. can identify that player/players while not exhausting our resources. We still have a lot of holes to fill.

My belief is that very few people here are going to be happy with his solution.

[staylor26]

I will say this. I'd love to see them flip that pick next year to get a 5th this year and double dip at RB.

Can you imagine if we got Dylan Sampson and Damien Martinez?

Or Tuten and Gordon?

[CatfishBob2]

All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot