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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 12-28-2015, 03:17 PM   #1966
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I think I'm enjoying the World Series win more now than when it happened. Over the past few days, I've been watching the various specials on the Series and the fan-made tributes. It's just incredible. To share this with my kids has been even better. There aren't too many days that we aren't rocking our WS gear.

Thank you so much to this team. It's been a great season that will likely get better with age.
My girlfriend came back to KC with me for Christmas this year. She told me she never fully got how much the Royals mean to KC until now. Half the Christmas presents my family exchanged were some kind of Royals gear. My friends and family all swapped parade stories. Everyone was talking about Gordon and opening day.
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But nobody was more convinced that everything happens in threes than Royals rookie Paulo Orlando. He had to wait until age 29 to reach the big leagues. But once he got there, every time he looked up, he was dusting himself off at third base. Here are his first seven career hits, courtesy of loyal tweeter Ed Bartel: triple, triple, triple, single, triple, single, triple. So that's more triples in his first seven hits than Victor Martinez has unfurled in his first 1,776 hits.
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Interesting factoid 2.

Exactly once in the history of the Royals had they ever pulled a pitcher working on a no-hitter in the sixth inning or later. Then, naturally, Ned Yost did it twice this year -- to the same guy (Chris Young).
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It's safe to say Jeremy Guthrie isn't as big a fan of Yankee Stadium as, say, Babe Ruth. In his May 25 visit to the Bronx, he gave up 11 earned runs. And four homers. And allowed 13 baserunners. And got three outs. So who else has ever done that, you ask? Nobody has ever done that.
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That's what they've been trying to do for a couple years now, so no surprise. They don't have the contact hitters the Royals do, and their park is a better fit for the HR ball anyway.
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that means it's true though in that scenario. And to me, that IS an insulting offer. I'd have started at 4/$70
I'd rather he walk than pay that much. 5/75 would by my final offer.
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My girlfriend came back to KC with me for Christmas this year. She told me she never fully got how much the Royals mean to KC until now. Half the Christmas presents my family exchanged were some kind of Royals gear. My friends and family all swapped parade stories. Everyone was talking about Gordon and opening day.
In all fairness, the stadium was empty for 20 years when they sucked. Everyone loves them now, but I split season tix for a few years mid 2000s and you couldn't give them away back then. And we didn't even draw last year when we went to the WS the first time
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I will never forget that game either. I didn't have a rooting interest in either team, but when that game was over I decided I had just watched the greatest game of all time, because of all of the excitement and the drama. If I recall correctly, Dave Henderson made a game saving catch in left field before he hit the game winning home run. I'm sorry to hear he passed away today, just as I was sorry to hear Donnie Moore committed suicide a couple of years later.
Actually Lex, (And I had to go back and read and watch before I was certain), he entered the game as a replacement for CR Tony Armas who got hurt, and while tracking a long fly ball off Bobby Grich, the ball hit the palm of his glove as he hit the CF wall and it popped out of his glove and over the wall for a 2 run HR.

He was going to be scapegoated for the series.
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Actually Lex, (And I had to go back and read and watch before I was certain), he entered the game as a replacement for CR Tony Armas who got hurt, and while tracking a long fly ball off Bobby Grich, the ball hit the palm of his glove as he hit the CF wall and it popped out of his glove and over the wall for a 2 run HR.

He was going to be scapegoated for the series.
Dang, I'm going to have to go look that up now.
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