Chiefs Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate - Page 14

Dante84 · 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM

In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?

Urc Burry · 02-10-2021, 10:06 AM

Orlando Brown requested a trade. Demanding to play LT. Probably wouldn’t be worth the haul they will get.

htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 10:08 AM

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Need a LB too if we can’t keep Damien Wilson. Ben Neimann should not see to e field unless it’s ST’s or 3rd and long

There will be somebody available in free agency to fill that spot. They don't need to spend big on a LB with Gay and Hitchens here.

htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Orlando Brown requested a trade. Demanding to play LT. Probably wouldn’t be worth the haul they will get.

Baltimore is going to want a 1st round pick and probably more.

Brown wants a contract similar to what Stanley got.

He's not an option for the Chiefs.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-10-2021, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Baltimore is going to want a 1st round pick and probably more.

Brown wants a contract similar to what Stanley got.

He's not an option for the Chiefs.

Correct.

Unless the Chiefs are done with Eric Fisher, there is no reason to be moving Heaven and Earth for a long term LT. We need a stopgap type of option there.

If they do want a long term LT, I’d rather draft and develop one who fits out offense best as a great pass protector.

htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Correct.

Unless the Chiefs are done with Eric Fisher, there is no reason to be moving Heaven and Earth for a long term LT. We need a stopgap type of option there.

If they do want a long term LT, I’d rather draft and develop one who fits out offense best as a great pass protector.

Yep.

My guess is that they fully expect Fisher to be back at this point so a 1-year type guy is what is incoming.

Urc Burry · 02-10-2021, 10:18 AM

Yeah. I realize it’s not really realistic. Just overreacting to the super bowl. I have my doubts Schwartz has played his last game in the nfl tho.

He claims to not be about the money, but I’m sure that’s bullshit. A 24 year old franchise type LT sounds amazing, but don’t think we’re in a position to make that type of move

Chris Meck · 02-10-2021, 10:43 AM

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Yep.

My guess is that they fully expect Fisher to be back at this point so a 1-year type guy is what is incoming.

Here's the thing-

Fisher's starting to have back problems too.

Over 30, 300+ pound men with back problems don't tend to get better.

Yeah, maybe you can duct-tape in a guy to hold the fort until Fisher comes back from the achilles; but do you really want to be in the same spot next season? Or the one after?

Schwartz missed the last half of the year. I don't see how it's a reasonable plan to count on him either.

There's just too much at stake here.

I love the players, I do, but history says their days of being dependable are probably over.

Chris Meck · 02-10-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

There will be somebody available in free agency to fill that spot. They don't need to spend big on a LB with Gay and Hitchens here.

Yeah I think a full offseason and Gay takes Wilson and Niemann's snaps and we're good there.

staylor26 · 02-10-2021, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Here's the thing-

Fisher's starting to have back problems too.

Over 30, 300+ pound men with back problems don't tend to get better.

Yeah, maybe you can duct-tape in a guy to hold the fort until Fisher comes back from the achilles; but do you really want to be in the same spot next season? Or the one after?

Schwartz missed the last half of the year. I don't see how it's a reasonable plan to count on him either.

There's just too much at stake here.

I love the players, I do, but history says their days of being dependable are probably over.

Eh I don’t know that I’d say Fisher is starting to have back problem because he had spasms.

That’s a bit of a reach, but I understand the concern.

TNTEICHER · 02-10-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Fisher tore his Achilles. He didn’t ****ing die.

He’ll be back by Thanksgiving at the worst.

Get that ****er ready for the playoffs and let’s ride.

I have ruptured my achilles. It takes 2 years for it to be 90%. It will never be 100%

mkp785 · 02-10-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Here's the thing-

Fisher's starting to have back problems too.

Over 30, 300+ pound men with back problems don't tend to get better.

Yeah, maybe you can duct-tape in a guy to hold the fort until Fisher comes back from the achilles; but do you really want to be in the same spot next season? Or the one after?

Schwartz missed the last half of the year. I don't see how it's a reasonable plan to count on him either.

There's just too much at stake here.

I love the players, I do, but history says their days of being dependable are probably over.

This. Plus I wonder what's the history of Pro Bowl LTs tearing the achilles and returning to their former selves? Has that happened before? In Fisher's case he already had tough sledding facing Bosa and Chubb/Miller 2x a year. That sucks as is, now he needs to repeat that when he's over 30 and recovering from one of the shittiest injuries in all of sports?

That's asking alot.

**The Franchise** · 02-10-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TNTEICHER

I have ruptured my achilles. It takes 2 years for it to be 90%. It will never be 100%

Are you a football player with the best medical doctors available?

smithandrew051 · 02-10-2021, 11:08 AM

My hope for Fisher is just for him to be able to play half the year (the second half and postseason) at an average level.

Just get through one more year, so we don’t have to address BOTH tackles with long term solutions in one offseason. If Niang can be above average at RT, then the situation isn’t as dire as it might seem.

smithandrew051 · 02-10-2021, 11:08 AM

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Are you a football player with the best medical doctors available?

He’s posting on CP, so he’s actually better than that

Chris Meck · 02-10-2021, 11:09 AM

I just think this-

We have two injured offensive tackles, both over 30, both very questionable moving forward, at least for 2021, and no guarantees after that.

Both are also not inexpensive players.

2021's NFL draft is unusually deep with talented offensive tackles.

The math just sort of seems unavoidable doesn't it?

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