** OFFICIAL: "Do You Believe in God and an Afterlife?" Thread** - Page 14

Mr. Kotter · 11:26 AM

Simple question.

I'm just curious how representative this place is, compared with mainstream America on the question. A few threads of late, just got me wondering....

Please feel free to discuss.

Braincase · 12-02-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Maybe you should've thought that one through a little bit more.

Not that last line. No way.

Logical · 12-02-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

IYO.

In fact, I think it might be the only either/or label society has left to implement.

The one thing that can completely divide us.

I am trying to follow what is the only either/or choice? Why would it be a single choice? Not being a smart ass just came in on this part and I honestly am not following.

RJ · 12-02-2006, 07:56 PM

I'd probably be a more spiritual person if it weren't for most of the religious folks I've met. Various Christians have been giving me doubt as to the existence of a capital G God since I was a child. From the nun who told me when I was 8 y/o that I was going to hell for wearing corduroy pants to school, to the protestants who took a bunch of 7th graders on a "retreat" so they might scare the shit out of us in an effort to save our souls (from what I don't know) to the church people of all kinds who ring my doorbell despite my "no soliciting" sign so they can talk to me about my religious beliefs.........and then tell me, "Oh, we're not soliciting, we're from the fill-in-the-blank church!". Not to mention the Christian fundamentalists who want to decide what I watch on tv or what my daughter learns in school.

So on the one hand I look around me at the wonders of the world and the miracle of life and think that there must surely be a higher power. But then I think, if there is a capital G God then why would the capital H He want the most obnoxious people I've met in my 47 years on the planet acting as his agents? C'mon, if He is God can't he find some better spokespeople?

No offense meant to all the well meaning, good deed doing, sincere folks of all religions in the world. I know you are out there, but I think you're outnumbered within your own ranks.

C-Mac · 12-02-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm an atheist.....I don't believe some invisible man in the sky created everything and knows and sees everything we do.....the whole story just seems like such a bullshit story to me.

I believe in reality more than anything.....

The defaulting tricky part is that evolution story is not reality either.

**Bowser** · 12-02-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

I'd probably be a more spiritual person if it weren't for most of the religious folks I've met. Various Christians have been giving me doubt as to the existence of a capital G God since I was a child. From the nun who told me when I was 8 y/o that I was going to hell for wearing corduroy pants to school, to the protestants who took a bunch of 7th graders on a "retreat" so they might scare the shit out of us in an effort to save our souls (from what I don't know) to the church people of all kinds who ring my doorbell despite my "no soliciting" sign so they can talk to me about my religious beliefs.........and then tell me, "Oh, we're not soliciting, we're from the fill-in-the-blank church!". Not to mention the Christian fundamentalists who want to decide what I watch on tv or what my daughter learns in school.

So on the one hand I look around me at the wonders of the world and the miracle of life and think that there must surely be a higher power. But then I think, if there is a capital G God then why would the capital H He want the most obnoxious people I've met in my 47 years on the planet acting as his agents? C'mon, if He is God can't he find some better spokespeople?

No offense meant to all the well meaning, good deed doing, sincere folks of all religions in the world. I know you are out there, but I think you're outnumbered within your own ranks.

REP

Redcoats58 · 12-02-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

% of people that serve God: 10-20% (at best)
% of people who go to Church weekly: 40%
% of people who believe in God: 95%
% of people who know they are sinners: 100%

KCJ
Convinced, converted, content

Wouldn't it stand to reason that if 95% of people believed in god in your eyes that the other 5% must be atheist, so the amount of people that believe they are sinners couldn't be 100%, it would be 95%, for sinner is a religious term.

C-Mac · 12-02-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Maybe you should've thought that one through a little bit more.

OK...I'm confused, what did I miss here?

Logical · 12-02-2006, 08:04 PM

I almost made the following question a thread but thought it might be pushing the mods tolerance level.

If you believe in a creator(s), do you believe they are all knowing and all powerful?

Personally I do not think such a being or beings is likely.

Mecca · 12-02-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

The defaulting tricky part is that evolution story is not reality either.

The Aliens made us man...

Logical · 12-02-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcoats58

Wouldn't it stand to reason that if 95% of people believed in god in your eyes that the other 5% must be atheist, so the amount of people that believe they are sinners couldn't be 100%, it would be 95%, for sinner is a religious term.

Absolutely logical, I almost made this point but knowing John the way I do, I figured it would just bait him into his old ways.

Ultra Peanut · 12-02-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

The defaulting tricky part is that evolution story is not reality either.

THEORY LOL

C-Mac · 12-02-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Aliens made us man...

Well there you go pushing that supreme being stuff on us again.

Mecca · 12-02-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Well there you go pushing that supreme being stuff on us again.

LOL.....well to me the idea of evolution is alot more believable than some invisible man in the sky made us.

C-Mac · 12-02-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

THEORY LOL

Then its the creation theory then.... LOL

C-Mac · 12-02-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

LOL.....well to me the idea of evolution is alot more believable than some invisible man in the sky made us.

To each his own but you really owe it to yourself to do some extensive unbiased research on both subjects.

View Poll Results: Which of the following most closely describes your beliefs:
I believe, and live accordingly.	16	11.19%
I believe, should strive accordingly....better than I do.	64	44.76%
I believe, but am not sure...	11	7.69%
I wanna believe, but have serious doubts...	10	6.99%
I have no clue--and neither do you or anyone else.	19	13.29%
I don't believe "in the myths of bronze age goat herders" or other similar "myths." However, I live a responsible and respectful life.	20	13.99%
I don't believe, and I live however the hell I choose.	2	1.40%
I believe in GAZ.	1	0.70%
Voters: 143. You may not vote on this poll

12-01-2006, 11:21 AM
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RJ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In a shotgun shack Casino cash: $9895202	I'd probably be a more spiritual person if it weren't for most of the religious folks I've met. Various Christians have been giving me doubt as to the existence of a capital G God since I was a child. From the nun who told me when I was 8 y/o that I was going to hell for wearing corduroy pants to school, to the protestants who took a bunch of 7th graders on a "retreat" so they might scare the shit out of us in an effort to save our souls (from what I don't know) to the church people of all kinds who ring my doorbell despite my "no soliciting" sign so they can talk to me about my religious beliefs.........and then tell me, "Oh, we're not soliciting, we're from the fill-in-the-blank church!". Not to mention the Christian fundamentalists who want to decide what I watch on tv or what my daughter learns in school. So on the one hand I look around me at the wonders of the world and the miracle of life and think that there must surely be a higher power. But then I think, if there is a capital G God then why would the capital H He want the most obnoxious people I've met in my 47 years on the planet acting as his agents? C'mon, if He is God can't he find some better spokespeople? No offense meant to all the well meaning, good deed doing, sincere folks of all religions in the world. I know you are out there, but I think you're outnumbered within your own ranks.
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12-02-2006, 08:04 PM	#203
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I almost made the following question a thread but thought it might be pushing the mods tolerance level. If you believe in a creator(s), do you believe they are all knowing and all powerful? Personally I do not think such a being or beings is likely.
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