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**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 05:53 PM

This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth.

If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years.

Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine.

So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel.

Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief.

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Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources.

Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle.

Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn.

KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time,

Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks.

Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 09:18 PM

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**The Bad Guy** · 02-15-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's really hard to throw WR screen passes man.

That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 09:19 PM

The numbers support the claims.

Cassel, at best, is average.

Seriously, this reminds me of Royals fan hoping that Hochevar develops. Um...wake up.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-15-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Joe Montana. Hackett was the OC when he was acquired.

And this obviously started the trend, so I'd say it's pretty applicable.

The trend? The trend of getting familiar players in with coaches they have had prior is a pretty common thing in the NFL.

Deberg_1990 · 02-15-2010, 09:21 PM

Cassel cause Chief he get good!

Mecca · 02-15-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

That's 1 throw, and it's fine to bring it up as a great play he made. All I ask for is consistency, until he can consistently complete passes in the 10-20 yard range he will always struggle.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I keep reading this, and it's complete bullshit every time.

Carl Peterson signed players he had no first-hand knowledge of. Pioli was around Cassel, knew alot about him, and obviously had a lot of faith in his abilities.

The only comparison is Trent Green with Vermeil.

Carl Peterson never had a comfort level with any of the 49ers QBs he acquired prior.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The trend? The trend of getting familiar players in with coaches they have had prior is a pretty common thing in the NFL.

These statements are antithetical.

I don't believe the Cassel acquisition was a "safe" play, but it was absolutely the type of "risk" that Carl would have been more than comfortable with, especially with the draft pick we surrendered.

ChiefsCountry · 02-15-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That throw to Moss in the Jet game in the endzone was one of the best passes I saw all of the 08 season.

I think the Cassel haters are getting out of control with this now though. The guy sucked last year bad. But that doesn't take away from the season he had in New England in 08.

It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-15-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

ForeverChiefs58 · 02-15-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

he still won more games in one season, than the chiefs have in three seasons.

Deberg_1990 · 02-15-2010, 09:32 PM

I dont think Cassel is complete garbage....but i dont see alot of upside in him.

I think hes always going to be a guy who throws 15-20 TD's a year.

I want a guy who is going to throw 25 -35 TD's a year. Thats pretty much the standard now for guys going to Super Bowls.

ChiefsCountry · 02-15-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

Well he is paid to be our franchise QB and the team ****ed up by trading for him when a legit one was available. I think its legit to rag on the POS. Face it he is the face of our franchise, if he played like a legit franchise QB I would have no problem eating crow and say I was wrong about him. I really would and hope for the Chiefs sake he does, bc I don't think Pioli is man enought to admit he screwed up.

milkman · 02-15-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It was a very good season for someone with zero college or NFL real game starting experience prior.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I understand he sucks, and I don't think he'll ever amount to much, but the ragging on him constantly is like Reerun beating the Herm drum every chance he gets.

I tend to agree with you.

I believe he was better with the Patriots in '08 than most are giving him credit for, but like you, I don't expect him to ever amount to much.

As to the news, if they like Clausen enough to trade a couple of draft picks for him, just take him a #5 overall.

We have too many holes to fill to be giving away picks that high in the draft, and last year proved that reaching wasn't a problem for them.

Touchdown Bowe · 02-15-2010, 09:38 PM

20th-25th pick? He'll be lucky to escape the top 10..

Fat Elvis · 02-15-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

would the Lions pass on one of the top DT's in this draft for Dorsey? I don't see it. I think I would take Suh over Dorsey, but that is just me.

You're not Gunther Cunningham....

02-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Interesting Chiefs News This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth. If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years. Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine. So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel. Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources. Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle. Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn. KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time, Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks. Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $24454	I dont think Cassel is complete garbage....but i dont see alot of upside in him. I think hes always going to be a guy who throws 15-20 TD's a year. I want a guy who is going to throw 25 -35 TD's a year. Thats pretty much the standard now for guys going to Super Bowls.
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