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Old 11-23-2011, 08:58 PM  
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Cassel VS Orton

Orton in his two years in our offense-

62.1% 3,802 yards 21 TD 12 INT 86.8 Rating 7.0 YPA
58.8% 3,653 yards 20 TD 9 INT 87.5 Rating 7.3 YPA

Cassel those same last two years in the same system with better cast-

55.0% 2,924 yards 16 TD 16 INT 69.9 Rating 5.93 YPA
58.2% 3,116 yards 27 TD 7 INT 93.0 Rating 6.92 YPA
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:52 AM   #196
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Yeah, but he can sure play the banjo.

No I cant... WTF makes you think I can play a banjo? I have zero music talent...

At least know your facts...
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:54 AM   #197
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When I debate with people with some intelligence, I offer my best.

For you, why waste time?

You wouldn't be able to grasp an intelligent argument.

You clearly have no clue.
Then stop replying and put me on ignore...

YOU are the one wasting your time, not me... YOU are the one replying to my messages in this thread....

And seriously old man, WTF are you talking about... I wasnt even having a discussion with you about anything in this thread... Do you have the early onset of Demensia or something?

Jesus old people are ****ing crazy...
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:55 AM   #198
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No I cant... WTF makes you think I can play a banjo? I have zero music talent...

At least know your facts...
Wow.

Just wow.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:57 AM   #199
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Wow.

Just wow.


WOW Just WOW...
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:57 AM   #200
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Yeah he was masterful....

Palko was so horrible on monday night, he didnt adjust to anything. Threw some of the worse picks you will ever see...

There was nothing he did to adjust for anything. I understand the Cassel hate, but to make shit up to add to it is laughable.
Do me a favor and re-watch the game. Watch what Palko does in pre-snap.

He moved his blockers to adjust for the coverage. Literally tapped them on the shoulder and in some cases, grabbed them by the collar and moved them into place.

He's not as quick as an great QB in getting rid of the ball quickly and going through progressions. But at least he does it. More than can be said for Cassel.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:58 AM   #201
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Big ****ing deal...

What is sad is that we are using Cassel as the standard... And we are debating Cassel vs Orton now?

I dont care how much you lick the ballsack of Cassel, He sucks ass. And on top of that, the way Pioli and Co are handling the QB situation is totally inexcusable...
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:00 PM   #202
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:01 PM   #203
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Then stop replying and put me on ignore...

YOU are the one wasting your time, not me... YOU are the one replying to my messages in this thread....

And seriously old man, WTF are you talking about... I wasnt even having a discussion with you about anything in this thread... Do you have the early onset of Demensia or something?

Jesus old people are ****ing crazy...
Wow, you actually got something right.

Mark the date.

You're right, you weren't having a discussion with me, but your post was so stupid, I was in absolute awe, and felt compelled to point out your awe inspiring stupidity.

As to ignore, I have never used that feature.

I mean, why would I want to miss the awe inspring stupidity?
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:01 PM   #204
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Do me a favor and re-watch the game. Watch what Palko does in pre-snap.

He moved his blockers to adjust for the coverage. Literally tapped them on the shoulder and in some cases, grabbed them by the collar and moved them into place.

He's not as quick as an great QB in getting rid of the ball quickly and going through progressions. But at least he does it. More than can be said for Cassel.
I didnt see it live, but I was listening at work. I watched it later in the week and I never recall Cassel doing these things. well, some but not nearly as much.
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:30 PM   #205
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Wow, you actually got something right.

Mark the date.

You're right, you weren't having a discussion with me, but your post was so stupid, I was in absolute awe, and felt compelled to point out your awe inspiring stupidity.

As to ignore, I have never used that feature.

I mean, why would I want to miss the awe inspring stupidity?
You remind me of my Great Grandpa Voss... He lost his leg in the Great war, was bound to a wheel chair all of his life. Smoked pipes and drank Buckhorn beer all day..

He was mean and angry... But he was a blast to be around...

The fact that you are old and angry as well is pretty cool...
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:33 PM   #206
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I mean, why would I want to miss the awe inspring stupidity?
It'll come to you...
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:23 AM   #207
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Orton in his two years in our offense-

62.1% 3,802 yards 21 TD 12 INT 86.8 Rating 7.0 YPA
58.8% 3,653 yards 20 TD 9 INT 87.5 Rating 7.3 YPA

Cassel those same last two years in the same system with better cast-

55.0% 2,924 yards 16 TD 16 INT 69.9 Rating 5.93 YPA
58.2% 3,116 yards 27 TD 7 INT 93.0 Rating 6.92 YPA
The only real difference I see is that Orton has a better season pass yards total than Cassell. Other than that, Kyle Orton isn't going to perform that much better than Cassell if the Chiefs want to do better than the first round of the playoffs before the end of this decade. They need to draft a top rookie QB and give him 3-4 seasons to develop.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:26 AM   #208
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The only real difference I see is that Orton has a better season pass yards total than Cassell. Other than that, Kyle Orton isn't going to perform that much better than Cassell if the Chiefs want to do better than the first round of the playoffs before the end of this decade. They need to draft a top rookie QB and give him 3-4 seasons to develop.
Orton did that with no running game.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:16 AM   #209
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Orton did that with no running game.
Regardless, he is not the man we need in order to regain a superstar offense. Our offensive line is not strategized around the QB like the way the Colts offense was around Peyton Manning.
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