***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Agreed. But that's with any virus. And as many medical professionals are saying, many people will contract the virus and not even know it. Just like the flu.

I have been pretty vocal about how big of an overreaction this is, but then I thought about something...

I'm a healthy adult. If I get this virus, I'm probably going to be fine. But...

I might need medical attention. Not intense medical attention, but some that I cannot get at home. So, I will need to go see a medical professional. If a bunch of healthy guys like me need the same, we're going to start overcrowding urgent care, ERs, hospitals, doctors offices. The strain of normal healthy adults who need extra care is going to kill those who need emergency care.

Or guys like me will be turned away. And what SHOULD have been an easy virus to combat and survive will be... less so. It could get VERY ugly. Are we there yet? no. Absolutely not.

But this extreme vigilance might be what saves us. We might only have two options here - extreme vigilance and utter collapse.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

You have received an infraction at ChiefsPlanet

---

000000" size="1"> Dear Bugeater,

You have received an infraction at ChiefsPlanet.

Reason: False Thread Title or fake news
-------
Very proud Wynot girls won state BB tho!
-------

This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=14836472
Quote:

All the best,
ChiefsPlanet

Holy shit. That was supposed to be a positive rep. My sincere apologies don't have my contacts in. Time to go bed.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Holy shit. That was supposed to be a positive rep. My sincere apologies don't have my contacts in. Time to go bed.

I'll fix it.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Holy shit. That was supposed to be a positive rep. My sincere apologies don't have my contacts in. Time to go bed.

I thought that may have been the case. Or the coronavirus is getting to you.

[Bugeater]

Fix his shit DaFace!

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Fix his shit DaFace!

His shit is now fixed.

[arrowheadnation]

I think things will start to get back to normal in a couple weeks. I've read in a couple places that new cases have started to decline in China where it originated. Just need to take every measure possible to keep the elderly and those with weakened immune systems and underlying issues safe. We should just be fortunate that we live in a country in a time in history where we are so evolved that we can deal with things like this.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I thought that may have been the case. Or the coronavirus is getting to you.

Again, apologies.

That shit ain't getting you, or me either. Even tho you're in much better shape than me.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by DaFace

His shit is now fixed.

Thanks man!

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I have been pretty vocal about how big of an overreaction this is, but then I thought about something...

I'm a healthy adult. If I get this virus, I'm probably going to be fine. But...

I might need medical attention. Not intense medical attention, but some that I cannot get at home. So, I will need to go see a medical professional. If a bunch of healthy guys like me need the same, we're going to start overcrowding urgent care, ERs, hospitals, doctors offices. The strain of normal healthy adults who need extra care is going to kill those who need emergency care.

Or guys like me will be turned away. And what SHOULD have been an easy virus to combat and survive will be... less so. It could get VERY ugly. Are we there yet? no. Absolutely not.

But this extreme vigilance might be what saves us. We might only have two options here - extreme vigilance and utter collapse.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

I think things will start to get back to normal in a couple weeks. I've read in a couple places that new cases have started to decline in China where it originated. Just need to take every measure possible to keep the elderly and those with weakened immune systems and underlying issues safe. We should just be fortunate that we live in a country in a time in history where we are so evolved that we can deal with things like this.

Try months.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He was voicing his opinion. His opinion vs. other medical professionals is not more or less valid.

Ok

So what is his opinion based on?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Again, apologies.

That shit ain't getting you, or me either. Even tho you're in much better shape than me.

I wouldn't bet on that.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

I think things will start to get back to normal in a couple weeks. I've read in a couple places that new cases have started to decline in China where it originated. Just need to take every measure possible to keep the elderly and those with weakened immune systems and underlying issues safe. We should just be fortunate that we live in a country in a time in history where we are so evolved that we can deal with things like this.

In a couple weeks. Lol!!! Must be nice living in fantasy land.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Try months.

It’ll probably pop back up and such in the coming months

But from the math it looks like some short term pain right now can really make a difference