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Old 02-18-2009, 04:26 AM  
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Teicher: Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff

Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs now have a staff of assistants to work with new head coach Todd Haley. In keeping with their new policy of hiding as much information as possible, the Chiefs wouldn’t disclose the duties of their assistant coaches.

But they retained Chan Gailey, who presumably will continue as offensive coordinator, and three other assistants from the staff of former coach Herm Edwards: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris and Tim Krumrie.

Haley also hired seven new assistant coaches, including Gary Gibbs, the likely defensive coordinator. Gibbs, 56, spent the last three seasons as the defensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints.

The head coach at Oklahoma during 1989-94, Gibbs has also served as linebacker coach for the Dallas Cowboys.

The other new assistants:

•Joel Collier, who has 17 seasons of NFL coaching experience. Collier most recently was the secondary coach for New England during 2005-07.

•Steve Hoffman, a 19-year NFL coaching veteran. Hoffman spent 16 seasons as the kicking coach for the Cowboys before moving on to special teams duties with Miami and Atlanta.

•Bill Muir, a 31-year NFL coaching veteran. Muir most recently spent seven seasons as Tampa Bay’s offensive coordinator and line coach, though he didn’t call the plays.

•Clancy Pendergast, who was the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals for the last five years.

•Pat Perles, who has spent most of his coaching career in college other than two seasons with the Rams in the early 1990s. Perles spent the last four seasons as the offensive coordinator at North Dakota State and recently was hired as offensive line coach at Ball State.

•Dedric Ward, who played wide receiver for eight NFL seasons. He started his coaching career at Missouri State in 2006 and was an offensive assistant for the Cardinals for the last two years.

Judging from the backgrounds of the new coaches, one likely offensive scenario has Gailey joined on offense by Ward (wide receivers) and Bicknell (tight ends). Muir, Perles and D’Alessandris have backgrounds coaching the offensive line, so it’s unclear what their duties will be.

On defense, both Gibbs and Pendergast have been coordinators and coached linebackers. Krumrie will likely remain as the line coach while Collier could coach the secondary.

Hoffman would be the special teams coach.

Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith were also retained from Edwards’ former staff as strength and conditioning coaches.

Through the Chiefs, Haley refused an interview request to explain his decisions.

Haley’s staff
The returnees: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie.

The newcomers: Joel Collier, Gary Gibbs, Steve Hoffman, Bill Muir, Clancy Pendergast, Pat Perles, Dedric Ward.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #211
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #213
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But as was pointed out in after your first post in this thread, no one had overreacted yet in this thread, yet you felt compelled to generalize about fans in this thread based on posts from other threads that had no bearing on the discussion in this thread to that point.

I reacted to you generalization.

Had you not been such a dick to start out in this thread, I would have had no problem with you.
People on Chiefs planet were quite vocal in their worry that a coaching staff had not been hired. This thread announced that coaches had been hired.
Posts 8,9, and 11 started the negative train. I then, having been sick of all the complaining about Pioli's timetable, posted what I did and said "This about sums up Chiefs Planet over the last two weeks" The operative phrase being Chiefs Planet, not this thread specifically, but Chiefs Planet"

so please knock it off about how i just, for no reason, attacked the precious posters in this thread, because its hardly the case. Its you guys who over-reacted and got all defensive about it and resorted to the dumbass etc.. remarks.

If you havent been doing any of the whining i have no idea why you would react to it like im talking to you.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:58 PM   #214
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But as was pointed out in after your first post in this thread, no one had overreacted yet in this thread, yet you felt compelled to generalize about fans in this thread based on posts from other threads that had no bearing on the discussion in this thread to that point.

I reacted to you generalization.

Had you not been such a dick to start out in this thread, I would have had no problem with you.
Exactly. It's as if this stupid douche goes on the public transit system and yells at riders that too many people are driving cars. Makes his inbred dumbassery shine through.
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If it was chaos, why announce anything at all? They could have just waited to sort everything out.

I'm just shocked that a rival fan would think this was chaos. Just shocked.
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I'm waiting to hear anyone put forward a logical reason to withhold that information if they know it. Maybe they just don't give a shit that their fans are interested?
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And I'm waiting to hear a reason to announce the hirings if they didn't already know who was coaching what.

When Pioli and Haley met with them, did they just say you're going to coach the Chiefs and we'll decide your position later?

But yes, keep believing it's chaos.
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It's obvious they're waiting on something. If they announce Gibbs as DC and then hire Crennel, what are they going to do, retract their announcement? On the other hand, if they announce him as LB coach and Crennel (or whoever) doesn't come aboard, how do they explain Gibbs' sudden promotion next week without giving away that they didn't get their man?

There may be other hires in the same vein. Hunt said they weren't through yet.

The net result is that they still don't know what jobs one or more of those guys are going to have.

There’s a reason Chiefs coach Todd Haley hasn’t provided specific duties for his assistants: He hasn’t determined all of them yet.

In his first public comments since his introductory news conference two weeks ago, Haley said Wednesday he was still sorting through important issues like whether he will call the offensive plays and what defensive system the Chiefs will use.

Haley also said he planned to hire at least one additional assistant. Those decisions will then determine exactly how the staff aligns.

“There are still a few moving parts,” Haley said before leaving for Indianapolis and the NFL’s annual scouting combine. “That’s why we haven’t gotten into specifics. Right now I’m just trying to get as many good coaches as we can get. To this point, I’m happy with what I’ve been able to do. If you have good coaches, then you figure out the best fit.

“I’m not trying to be cute here. I’m trying to leave enough flexibility, and then I’ll sort it out from there.”
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1041866.html


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Old 02-19-2009, 08:48 AM   #216
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But clearly, Pioli and Haley need to understand its not about putting the right pieces together to build a championship. Its all about keeping people on chiefs planet completely informed 24 hours a day so that they may feel in some way that they actually are part of the KC Chiefs front office and not just cheetoh eaters in front of a computer
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But you are such "great fans" im sure the Chiefs are lucky to have you.
We can only hope that Pioli can teach us all how to be better fans. It is probably covered somewhere in the "Patriots Way" handbook. Once we have all read it, then we will be much better fans. Maybe even as good as you one day.
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But clearly, Pioli and Haley need to understand its not about putting the right pieces together to build a championship. Its all about keeping people on chiefs planet completely informed 24 hours a day so that they may feel in some way that they actually are part of the KC Chiefs front office and not just cheetoh eaters in front of a computer
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I also felt, and feel, that having lived in New England and experienced exactly what is going on right now, that I have an insight on what im observing from the Chiefs front office that perhaps you folks, having lived in the world of Carl Peterson for so long, do not have.

This is no different to me than 2000 when people in NE had to get used the secrecy and the odd way this guy Belichick did things. Pioli was right there with him and hes doing it the exact same way.

The planet is lucky to have someone with your experience in the Belichick/Pioli style of public relations. Not a one of the planet members had any idea that information about what was going on behind the scenes would be kept out of the media. We were all expecting the entire franchise to be an open book. Who would have thought that Pioli would implement the same kind of information policy here as he (and Belichick) used while building one of the top teams in the league. Go figure. Fell free to post any of the ole stories that might pop into your mind about 'How Pioli/Belichick did things back in '00 '.
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But clearly, Pioli and Haley need to understand its not about putting the right pieces together to build a championship. Its all about keeping people on chiefs planet completely informed 24 hours a day so that they may feel in some way that they actually are part of the KC Chiefs front office and not just cheetoh eaters in front of a computer
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Good morning Pioli_Fluffer. I'm surprised you're up so early after what must have been a long, hard night of working the streets.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:20 AM   #222
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what? you think that is news to them? didn't they do it that way in NE?
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Apparently many of you DID need to be told that based on how clueless the reactions have been to the coaching hire situation


It amazes me how the can land the most coveted GM candidate and the fasted rising head coach candidate and instead of being hopeful and excited people can only piss and moan about the FO communication style.
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Apparently many of you DID need to be told that based on how clueless the reactions have been to the coaching hire situation


It amazes me how the can land the most coveted GM candidate and the fasted rising head coach candidate and instead of being hopeful and excited people can only piss and moan about the FO communication style.
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People are happy about Pioli, myself included. Hell, I like Haley too, I think he could be fantastic as a Head Coach....but we're all a little high-strung to see what's around the corner b/c there's a ton to do - and a lot of talk thus far...high draft selection, tons of cap space, front office and coaching overhaul...

It's the squadron of leftovers feeling that has everyone sick. I believe they wanted Haley the entire time, or would have hired someone else before hand. It's the rest of the cast that makes you feel bad, we have and will have a young team - these coaches matter. I don't like any act that keeps Slappy in the office - some things don't matter, but a recent track record of setting the league low should.

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It's a thankless exercise, but somebody's got to do it. Still, I would rather have your job and piss and moan about other fans pissing and moaning. So, I'm going with the next best thing and piss and moan about you pissing and moaning about us pissing and moaning.

Meanwhile, I'm beginning to wonder why you care so much, Mr. Zombie. And this, in turn, makes me wonder how you became a zombie. Does Pioli's sperm carry a virus?

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