Chiefs What if Fisher sucks at RT? - Page 15

CoMoChief · 08-02-2013, 08:44 AM

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

keg in kc · 08-03-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

No shit sherlock. Glad you're here to point these things out. Maybe you can be the new Captain Obvious.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-03-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Great. A few years. We'll know in a few years if we got a good tackle or not. Whoopee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately TALENTED players (which includes Geno Smith) are going to make huge differences on their respective teams. For instance, if Tavon Austin is as good as advertised, the Rams are probably a playoff team. THAT'S what I call drafting for better players.

LOL Geno is legitimately talented but Fisher is not?

Keep going. You're very entertaining, at least.

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Great. A few years. We'll know in a few years if we got a good tackle or not. Whoopee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately TALENTED players (which includes Geno Smith) are going to make huge differences on their respective teams. For instance, if Tavon Austin is as good as advertised, the Rams are probably a playoff team. THAT'S what I call drafting for better players.

the same rule applies for Geno Smith. Until he proves himself in real games, not TC, you won't know if he's any good. The same with Austin. The same with Fisher.

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

when the Brandon Albert LT train crashes and burns after this season, I believe you will understand why this staff doesn't want to pay what Albert wants.

I have no problem keeping Albert -- he ain't great but you don't need great anymore, but it wasn't in the cards. the staff grabbed the guy they wanted. I know folks want to slam them for it, but I don't see why it isn't a good move, in the end.

Fisher is a better football player than Albert imo. He's got more talent/range, better athlete and he has a winner's atitude -- AKA nasty player, which is a huge problem for Albert. I heard Albert on the radio the other day and he just sounds so ****ing pitiful, so weak it isn't even funny.

there were reports this staff wanted Albert to move inside. he should have gone along with this staff's desire to move in at LG and taken probably the largest LG contract in the league. But it's done. finito. Albert won't be back imo and Fisher is this team's LT going forward.

what a bunch of made up nonsense...jesus christ

what's hilarious, is the chance that Fisher has a better rookie season than Albert did is exactly zero

Albert was a guard who walked into the league and played damn near flawless as a rookie LT for the combined QB talent of Croyle, Huard, Thigpen

You don't like Albert's voice, so he sucks? You must be a scientist.

the guy is a warrior, and FAR AND AWAY our best OL...lmao

Fisher couldn't take his job if he wanted to

CoMoChief · 08-03-2013, 05:51 PM

Personally I preferred Joeckel if they were gonna go ahead with OT with the pick.

If not then Austin, at he'd hit ya some homeruns on the field in some part of the game. Plus we need a ****ing KR/PR like no one's business. The #1 overall pick should have immediate and important impact of the game and should almost hit the ground running with exception of QB.

Fisher is not a Jake Long. Thats not really to say Fisher can't get a lot better, but he certainly doesnt have the credentials of Long coming out college, or even Joeckel to be quite honest w/ ya. Long and Joeckel played for a couple of really big name schools, NFL factories if you will, and always played against some of the best talent in the nation, a lot of which they'll see at the next level eventually.

Fisher comes from a small school playing against lesser talent. He's a big fish in a small pond. This was a reach pick in which a coach works out with a player and says/thinks, "Man if he can handle change with this and a couple things, and get used to that, then he'll be a dominant force in the league for us." Is that really what you want from the first overall pick? I'm not sure. I hope he's able to improve and become dominant. The Albert situation has really put this team in a pickle. What if Fisher sucks? Albert won't be a Chief next season and this team is ready to win NOW. It's important that Fisher hits the ground running and can have a dominant season.

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

No shit sherlock. Glad you're here to point these things out. Maybe you can be the new Captain Obvious.

you keep saying that Albert is better than Fisher and all I'm saying is you don't know this. It will take a few years to find this out and until then, Fisher will play RT.

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

you keep saying that Albert is better than Fisher and all I'm saying is you don't know this. It will take a few years to find this out and until then, Fisher will play RT.

of course we know it

that's why Albert is our LT

**RealSNR** · 08-03-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

LOL Geno is legitimately talented but Fisher is not?

Keep going. You're very entertaining, at least.

Geno is a QB.

Fisher is a fat **** who blocks shit.

Try to keep up.

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Personally I preferred Joeckel if they were gonna go ahead with OT with the pick.

If not then Austin, at he'd hit ya some homeruns on the field in some part of the game. Plus we need a ****ing KR/PR like no one's business. The #1 overall pick should have immediate and important impact of the game and should almost hit the ground running with exception of QB.

Fisher is not a Jake Long. Thats not really to say Fisher can't get a lot better, but he certainly doesnt have the credentials of Long coming out college, or even Joeckel to be quite honest w/ ya. Long and Joeckel played for a couple of really big name schools, NFL factories if you will, and always played against some of the best talent in the nation, a lot of which they'll see at the next level eventually.

Fisher comes from a small school playing against lesser talent. He's a big fish in a small pond. This was a reach pick in which a coach works out with a player and says/thinks, "Man if he can handle change with this and a couple things, and get used to that, then he'll be a dominant force in the league for us." Is that really what you want from the first overall pick? I'm not sure. I hope he's able to improve and become dominant. The Albert situation has really put this team in a pickle. What if Fisher sucks? Albert won't be a Chief next season and this team is ready to win NOW. It's important that Fisher hits the ground running and can have a dominant season.

It was games like the senior bowl that solidified Fisher's status, where he competed with other players from big time D1 schools.

You all should be way more worried about Poe because aside from a great combine, he never proved anything in games.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-03-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Geno is a QB.

Fisher is a fat **** who blocks shit.

Try to keep up.

Actually Fisher is pretty lean for a 6'7" 300 pound man don't go overboard with the qualifiers . Now Luke Joeckel on the other hand is a little soft.

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

of course we know it

that's why Albert is our LT

lol, Albert is your starting LT because no other team would give kc a second round pick for him and kc franchised him and are now on the hook for almost $10m.

milkman · 08-03-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

You don't have ****ing clue.

Albert has some of the quickest feet I've ever seen for a big man, which is the reason he has been consistenly effective as a pass blocker in spite of poor technique.

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

lol, Albert is your starting LT because no other team would give kc a second round pick for him and kc franchised him and are now on the hook for almost $10m.

he's our starting LT because he's the best OL on the team, and the best LT without question...

there's nothing to discuss....jesus, it ain't rocket algebra

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2013, 06:00 PM

I'll say it again...Albert's rookie season was incredible

and Fisher won't hold a candle to it, even as a RT

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he's our starting LT because he's the best OL on the team, and the best LT without question...

there's nothing to discuss....jesus, it ain't rocket algebra

he's the starting LT because he's getting paid $10m and that's all there is to discuss... this ain't rocket science.

08-02-2013, 08:44 AM
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7662254	What if Fisher sucks at RT? Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen??? I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early? And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.
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08-03-2013, 05:51 PM	#215
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7662254	Personally I preferred Joeckel if they were gonna go ahead with OT with the pick. If not then Austin, at he'd hit ya some homeruns on the field in some part of the game. Plus we need a ****ing KR/PR like no one's business. The #1 overall pick should have immediate and important impact of the game and should almost hit the ground running with exception of QB. Fisher is not a Jake Long. Thats not really to say Fisher can't get a lot better, but he certainly doesnt have the credentials of Long coming out college, or even Joeckel to be quite honest w/ ya. Long and Joeckel played for a couple of really big name schools, NFL factories if you will, and always played against some of the best talent in the nation, a lot of which they'll see at the next level eventually. Fisher comes from a small school playing against lesser talent. He's a big fish in a small pond. This was a reach pick in which a coach works out with a player and says/thinks, "Man if he can handle change with this and a couple things, and get used to that, then he'll be a dominant force in the league for us." Is that really what you want from the first overall pick? I'm not sure. I hope he's able to improve and become dominant. The Albert situation has really put this team in a pickle. What if Fisher sucks? Albert won't be a Chief next season and this team is ready to win NOW. It's important that Fisher hits the ground running and can have a dominant season. __________________
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08-03-2013, 06:00 PM	#224
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9082208	I'll say it again...Albert's rookie season was incredible and Fisher won't hold a candle to it, even as a RT __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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