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Old 07-26-2016, 06:21 AM  
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****2016 Chiefs Training Camp Thread****
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:29 PM   #2311
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The big difference between Reid and Marty has nothing to do with either. John Dorsey is looking like the real deal to me.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:34 PM   #2312
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Im not saying we can't win that game, but it's certainly not one I expect to win. We'd be very fortunate to win that game going into the bye week before Oakland.
It will have strong play-off seeding ramifications....it might end up being the most important game of the season. Ben gets beat up every season..it seems like though. Bengals are going to be pissed....
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:36 PM   #2313
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Don't kid yourself. This team winning @Pitt early on in the season without Houston would be a steal. Not to mention catching them without Bell.
I'm honestly starting to believe that Chiefs fans are overvaluing Justin Houston.

Yes, he's a great player when healthy but it's unlikely he'll ever have 22 sacks in a season ever again. Last year, he had 7.5 through 11 games, which comes out to 11 sacks in a season, half of what he had the previous year. That's a nice number but it isn't insurmountable.

Also, he only had 25 tackles in 11 games. Dee Ford had 20 tackles in 5 starts.

At this point in time, I expect there to be a dropoff in performance from Houston to Ford but it's not going to be as dramatic as many people in this forum expect.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:39 PM   #2314
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I'm honestly starting to believe that Chiefs fans are overvaluing Justin Houston.

Yes, he's a great player when healthy but it's unlikely he'll ever have 22 sacks in a season ever again. Last year, he had 7.5 through 11 games, which comes out to 11 sacks in a season, half of what he had the previous year. That's a nice number but it isn't insurmountable.

Also, he only had 25 tackles in 11 games. Dee Ford had 20 tackles in 5 starts.

At this point in time, I expect there to be a dropoff in performance from Houston to Ford but it's not going to be as dramatic as many people in this forum expect.
If Jones can create an interior rush...it'll help Ford's game a lot.

Houston is a game-changer...so we'll disagree about his value. I will agree that KC isn't royally ****ed without him. They absolutely need him by the post season...
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:39 PM   #2315
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I'm honestly starting to believe that Chiefs fans are overvaluing Justin Houston.

Yes, he's a great player when healthy but it's unlikely he'll ever have 22 sacks in a season ever again. Last year, he had 7.5 through 11 games, which comes out to 11 sacks in a season, half of what he had the previous year. That's a nice number but it isn't insurmountable.

Also, he only had 25 tackles in 11 games. Dee Ford had 20 tackles in 5 starts.

At this point in time, I expect there to be a dropoff in performance from Houston to Ford but it's not going to be as dramatic as many people in this forum expect.
I agree to an extent. I just think Houston is such a complete player, and still the best defender we have.

I still believe we'll be fine without him, and we can beat anybody, but he's the type of guy that could be the difference in shutting that Steelers offense down.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:44 PM   #2316
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I agree to an extent. I just think Houston is such a complete player, and still the best defender we have.
Absolutely. He's a great OLBer but it seems like most people act as if the Chiefs are putting 10 guys on the field instead of 11.

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I still believe we'll be fine without him, and we can beat anybody, but he's the type of guy that could be the difference in shutting that Steelers offense down.
They won six straight without him last year, so they've proven that they can win without him.

As for the Steelers, they're a mess. No Le'Veon Bell, no established tight end, weak secondary and only one receiver. Rothlisberger is always the wildcard but he's 34 years old and lost a considerable amount of weight this offseason, which should make him easier to bring down.

Plus, he's always injured.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:47 PM   #2317
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Absolutely. He's a great OLBer but it seems like most people act as if the Chiefs are putting 10 guys on the field instead of 11.



They won six straight without him last year, so they've proven that they can win without him.

As for the Steelers, they're a mess. No Le'Veon Bell, no established tight end, weak secondary and only one receiver. Rothlisberger is always the wildcard but he's 34 years old and lost a considerable amount of weight this offseason, which should make him easier to bring down.

Plus, he's always injured.
I will say this, it's nice to play @Pitt and @Oak early in the season, because I fully expect Tamba to **** shit up early on. He has to be feeling pretty good after getting all of TC off.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:52 PM   #2318
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Some talk on Terez Paylor's podcast about O'Shags being cut. Definitely on the bubble with Travis looking good.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:54 PM   #2319
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Some talk on Terez Paylor's podcast about O'Shags being cut. Definitely on the bubble with Travis looking good.
He's gone. Doesn't sound like he's having a great camp, so it's hard to justify keeping 4.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:59 PM   #2320
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#Steelers TE Ladarius Green is battling recurring headaches during Training Camp.

Word is he could possibly retire or get cut if this continues, as he already has a history of concussions. The Steelers are losing guys left and right. We might be able to steal one there.
Steelers are a good team, but if we're relying on maybe stealing games against injury-riddled teams, we're in for a disappointing season. I expect us to simply beat the Steelers at full strength, assuming we are at least. Without Houston, Hali, Berry etc we won't be stealing anything short of Big Ben being out. And even then...
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He's gone. Doesn't sound like he's Not having a great camp, so it's hard to justify keeping 4.
He made some good plays before being hurt...if he gets cut...its more a testament to Dorsey's eye for developing talent. He'll definitely get picked up...
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He's gone. Doesn't sound like he's Not having a great camp, so it's hard to justify keeping 4.
We've got 2 athletic weapons at TE so he's not really needed. Hopefully Travis is for real.

Our cuts will be snatched up fast this year.
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Steelers are a good team, but if we're relying on maybe stealing games against injury-riddled teams, we're in for a disappointing season. I expect us to simply beat the Steelers at full strength, assuming we are at least. Without Houston, Hali, Berry etc we won't be stealing anything short of Big Ben being out. And even then...


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Steelers are a good team, but if we're relying on maybe stealing games against injury-riddled teams, we're in for a disappointing season. I expect us to simply beat the Steelers at full strength, assuming we are at least. Without Houston, Hali, Berry etc we won't be stealing anything short of Big Ben being out. And even then...
Charles, Hali, and Berry barring injury will be playing that game.
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LOL The drop-off from Houston to Ford is ****ing titanic.
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