Chiefs Rumor from Shanahan's son - Page 16

Garcia Bronco · 01-22-2009, 09:12 AM

I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

KC4EVER · 01-22-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I think it was said that Col. Custard was a soldiers man, he and Herm have had similar results. It is a great thing that the players love the coach, but it is another if the coach cannot turn that respect into wins.

I do not think I have ever heard the words muttered, "Belichick is a players coach", or "Parcells is a players coach," yet their players love them. The ones that don't are typically the 'me-first' type of guys, the ones that aren't tolerated by either of them, and thus they are ignored in the lockeroom as well as on the field until they can be traded or cut.

I don't want a bumbeling nice guy as a HC. It may sound cheesy, but football and war are similar in their power structure. You wouldn't want a slow to react/evolve, but lovable general to lead your military into battle, so why would you want something similar as a head coach. Herm is a Col. Custard type of guy (Custard probably had more dickheadedness and self assurance than Herm, though arguable), not a Patton type of guy.

More than coaches, and sometimes more than money, players love to win. If you win, the players will respect the coach that is leading them to those wins. These young guys know nothing but losing as KC Chiefs. I all but guarantee that the KC players will love/respect any coach that comes in here and gets them on the winning track.

I want a Patton, a Bellichick/Parcells type. I will leave you with possibly one of the greatest quotes in human histroy:

-Gen. G.S. Patton

Great post!

DaWolf · 01-22-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Pretty definitive, though. Do we believe Schefter with his Denver connection, or Garcia Bronco with his alleged Kyle Shanahan encounter?

Just out of curiosity, but shouldn't Kyle be in either Houston or at the Senior Bowl? Not questioning the truthfulness of Garcia, but unless he knows the guy intimately and for some reason the Texans OC was in a Denver mall just hanging out and willing to spill the beans on his dad to a fan, who knows?

BigChiefFan · 01-22-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!

Sorry but wins and loses are the MOST IMPORTANT stat you can go by for a HEAD COACH, especially after THREE FULL YEARS. What other stat is there for a Head Coach? Passes completed by Herm? Interceptions by Herm?

The man you support is a LOSER, evidenced by his record.

**the Talking Can** · 01-22-2009, 12:05 PM

i've already started the process of rationalizing the Rat as our coach...and now it may be a completly false story....so awesome

**dirk digler** · 01-22-2009, 12:06 PM

Schefter vs Garcia Who do we believe the most?

KC4EVER · 01-22-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Sorry but wins and loses are the MOST IMPORTANT stat you can go by for a HEAD COACH, especially after THREE FULL YEARS. What other stat is there for a Head Coach? Passes completed by Herm? Interceptions by Herm?

The man you support is a LOSER, evidenced by his record.

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

EyePod · 01-22-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!

I'd have to say that you don't take a chance with Herm. It's not worth it. We're not sure if Herm's the problem, but we do know that we were in a shitty situation. We should wipe the slate clean and continue moving in a new direction.

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

So how many more years does this guy get a ****ing pass?

EyePod · 01-22-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Miami was able to turn it around in a year. Atlanta too. Why couldn't we?

bowener · 01-22-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Ultimately life is unequivocally unfair, more so for some than others.

Chiefs fans being in the 'for some' category.

BigChiefFan · 01-22-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

He's had THREE YEARS, if he and the GM didn't see eye to eye, he could have easily declined the job, but he ACCEPTED, knowing full well what the circumstances were. He also had Croyle for longer than a year. Same with Hali, Tyler, McBride, Pollard, etc...These are HIS PLAYERS and he failed miserably with HIS guys.

KC4EVER · 01-22-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So how many more years does this guy get a ****ing pass?

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

Codered · 01-22-2009, 12:13 PM

When it comes to knowing a bit about Shanahan ...

Schefter > Jack Harry or WPI hands down ...

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

**** that. The guy has proven that he can't do shit with "his" roster. Explain to me why players have REGRESSED under his coaching? He has thrown everyone possible under the bus. He has shown that he can't manage a game for shit. Herm Edwards is not a head coach....he's a PR man.

smittysbar · 01-22-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He's had THREE YEARS, if he and the GM didn't see eye to eye, he could have easily declined the job, but he ACCEPTED, knowing full well what the circumstances were. He also had Croyle for longer than a year. Same with Hali, Tyler, McBride, Pollard, etc...These are HIS PLAYERS and he failed miserably with HIS guys.

01-22-2009, 09:12 AM
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