Chiefs The roster as it stands - Page 16

Phoneix · 02:29 PM

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS

Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

Salaries in the spoilers

Spoiler!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

RunKC · 03-30-2022, 09:40 AM

And yeah I hope Veach looks at this and sees the opportunity. Chris Jones should be traded this time next year.

Trade the 29 year old player for a high pick and draft well. That’s how you win

-King- · 03-30-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

They pushed A LITTLE money down the road. Not a lot. You want to push A TON of money down the road.

And Clark is absolutely average. That's what's so irritating about it. He's AVERAGE to slightly ABOVE average, and that's not what we paid him for. We probably don't win SB54 without him, so whatever, but we're still paying for that.

They pushed 6.8(according to DJLN) into next year. Arden Key just signed for 7 million.

So I'd say that's not "a little money".

Chris Meck · 03-30-2022, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah that's why you take a chance on them.

You're really defending bringing back the most underperforming and most overpaid player on the team right now. And paying him next year also when he 100% won't be on the team. That's wild.

We already have guys like that on our practice squad on futures deals. You want to fill our active roster with that?!

I'm defending bringing back Clark for a difference of $1.2m when it would cost more than that to replace his average output. Why the **** are you still talking about Clark? It's a SUNK COST.

htismaqe · 03-30-2022, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

They pushed 6.8(according to DJLN) into next year. Arden Key just signed for 7 million.

So I'd say that's not "a little money".

They pushed $9M into next year on Clark.

But he was counting for almost $7M ALREADY.

-King- · 03-30-2022, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

We already have guys like that on our practice squad on futures deals. You want to fill our active roster with that?!

I'm defending bringing back Clark for a difference of $1.2m when it would cost more than that to replace his average output. Why the **** are you still talking about Clark? It's a SUNK COST.

No, I would also draft a DE in the first round.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2022, 09:43 AM

King doesn't know shit.

His entire argument is HILL GOOD and CLARK BAD.

Chris Meck · 03-30-2022, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

They pushed 6.8(according to DJLN) into next year. Arden Key just signed for 7 million.

So I'd say that's not "a little money".

It IS a little money, when we're in much better cap shape next year now that we're not paying Hill, and Ward, and Mathieu.

If they really wanted Key, they'd have signed him. I assume they were interested, but not interested enough to do so.

You don't know what they're doing, but you're freaking out anyway. As I've said for the last month, IT'S MARCH.

-King- · 03-30-2022, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise

King doesn't know shit.

His entire argument is HILL GOOD and CLARK BAD.

That's a pretty good argument. One that you were making....until Clark was resigned and Hill was traded.

In fact, its what all of you were saying until those moves were made.

htismaqe · 03-30-2022, 09:46 AM

Clark's contract before restructure:

$13.7M in 2022 dead money, $7M in 2023 dead money

Clark's contract after restructure:

$13.9M in 2022 cap hit, $9M in 2023 dead money

They got a warm body for a little over $2M net.

It really isn't at all hard to understand.

htismaqe · 03-30-2022, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

That's a pretty good argument. One that you were making....until Clark was resigned and Hill was traded.

In fact, its what all of you were saying until those moves were made.

And then the moves WERE made and we decided to act like grownups about it instead of acting like spoiled toddlers.

staylor26 · 03-30-2022, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And then the moves WERE made and we decided to act like grownups about it instead of acting like spoiled toddlers.

EXACTLY.

He thinks it’s some gotcha that people are willing to have an open mind and try to understand why a smart organization that has earned the benefit of the doubt did what they did.

Chris Meck · 03-30-2022, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

That's a pretty good argument. One that you were making....until Clark was resigned and Hill was traded.

In fact, its what all of you were saying until those moves were made.

Hey, you know why?

Because nobody knew what the financial particulars were until they were done deals.

Once you can see what the Clark deal means in terms of this and next year's cap situation, you see why Veach did that.

It's called digesting information and having an informed opinion.

O.city · 03-30-2022, 09:49 AM

It would be really helpful if Kaindoh turned into just something. Not great, just a decent player.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2022, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

That's a pretty good argument. One that you were making....until Clark was resigned and Hill was traded.

In fact, its what all of you were saying until those moves were made.

Really?

Funny that I was against trading Hill but I could see why they would do it based on what he was asking. There were a number of people that were.

Also....I wanted Clark gone but I could see why they would keep him based on what else they had on the roster.

staylor26 · 03-30-2022, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

It would be really helpful if Kaindoh turned into just something. Not great, just a decent player.

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