Chiefs What's with the Thigpen fixation? - Page 17

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

pikesome · 02-10-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

They would be much better if they would have kept Brees and used that draft pick for something else.

Could have had Larry Fitzgerald.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:41 PM

If you're a big fan of the spread check this out...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202128

"This is America, so we love to see the ball fly all over the place. But if you are going to make a living in the National Football League, you can't do it in the spread or shotgun formation, throwing the ball for 60 plays a game," Terry Robiskie said. "In the NFL, if you repeatedly leave those two tackles open, they are going to get beat. You can say it's a quick offense, and the ball is going to come out quick. That's accurate. But just as the ball comes out, that $80 million quarterback is going to get hit in his mouth and hit often. That's just the history of this game.

"On this level there are too many Jason Taylors and Bruce Smiths in this world, and they will be better than your best tackle."

**Reaper16** · 02-10-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

doesnt need one, just work on footwork. get the feet right everything else follows

You realize that Sanchez has superb footwork right now, don't you?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

the spread absolutely helps the O line, come on Mecca you know better than that.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He didn't, he just wasn't made of paper mache.

This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.

Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.

**RealSNR** · 02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pikesome

Could have had Larry Fitzgerald.

The Chiefs could have won the Super Bowl in the 90s if.... lots of things.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

You realize that Sanchez has superb footwork right now, don't you?

There are guys that were taken with top 10 picks from the spread that could never figure it out yet we're suppose to believe Thigpen can, I don't understand that.

**DeezNutz** · 02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Two minute drill in that very game if memory serves...
He helped get the offense in for 6 on an impressive drive.

I'm not remembering, so I'm not going to be intellectually dishonest with a reply.

I just remember thinking that game was a disaster, and I recall the scared talk going into the Jet game (even from Tony G. as a matter of fact) as a result.

**notorious** · 02-10-2009, 06:44 PM

No doubt, the spread hasn't done Jack S&^%.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you're a big fan of the spread check this out...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202128

"This is America, so we love to see the ball fly all over the place. But if you are going to make a living in the National Football League, you can't do it in the spread or shotgun formation, throwing the ball for 60 plays a game," Terry Robiskie said. "In the NFL, if you repeatedly leave those two tackles open, they are going to get beat. You can say it's a quick offense, and the ball is going to come out quick. That's accurate. But just as the ball comes out, that $80 million quarterback is going to get hit in his mouth and hit often. That's just the history of this game.

"On this level there are too many Jason Taylors and Bruce Smiths in this world, and they will be better than your best tackle."

Thigpen never had 60 attempts last season.
The closest he came was 54.
Aside from that game he never had more than 38 in any one contest.

And I'm not arguing FOR the Chiefs staying with the Spread.
I'm just saying.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-10-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I have seen you in the past take the exact opposite stance on this. That a QB's success really isn't directly related to Super Bowl wins. What changed that?

I'm pretty sure the post you quoted says playoff wins, does it not?

Many QB's win playoff games.

Very few win SB's.

So no, I don't think winning a SB is a good barometer.

But you ought to be able to win some playoff games, and give your team a chance at the big game.

Hammock Parties · 02-10-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Why can't Thigpen improve?

Why can't Gus Frerotte improve?

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Thigpen never had 60 attempts last season.
The closest he came was 54.
Aside from that game he never had more than 38 in any one contest.

60 is an purposely exaggerated number....it's saying when you are throwing at a 2-1 even 3-1 rate out of the shotgun constantly you are begging for your QB to get beat around.

**DeezNutz** · 02-10-2009, 06:47 PM

The quotation says "60 plays" not "60 pass attempts," FWIW. Slight difference.

MIAdragon · 02-10-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.

Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.

Now pull out the 13 sacks in games where Thiggy was not in the spread....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-10-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

And I can link you to an article where an NFL coach thinks a spread QB is going to revolutionize the NFL.

Is that coach currently working?

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	If you're a big fan of the spread check this out... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202128 "This is America, so we love to see the ball fly all over the place. But if you are going to make a living in the National Football League, you can't do it in the spread or shotgun formation, throwing the ball for 60 plays a game," Terry Robiskie said. "In the NFL, if you repeatedly leave those two tackles open, they are going to get beat. You can say it's a quick offense, and the ball is going to come out quick. That's accurate. But just as the ball comes out, that $80 million quarterback is going to get hit in his mouth and hit often. That's just the history of this game. "On this level there are too many Jason Taylors and Bruce Smiths in this world, and they will be better than your best tackle."
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