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Old 09-01-2012, 01:24 PM  
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Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta.

Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:07 PM   #241
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Alterraun Verner is actually a very good CB with the ability to start on the outside.

His PFF rating blows Arenas out of the water.

Would you like to know more?

That is the kind of player Pioli needs to be hitting on since he is Mr. Universe GM Of The Millenia

Also, the argument isn't that "Pioli should have picked X corner in round 3 or 4 instead of Arenas."

It's only that he could have picked someone else in the 2nd.

Could have easily found a nickel some other way...it's not exactly a hard position to fill.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:07 PM   #242
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I wouldn't call Arenas a gadget at all.
Someone did, though.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:11 PM   #243
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Alterraun Verner is actually a very good CB with the ability to start on the outside.

His PFF rating blows Arenas out of the water.

Would you like to know more?

That is the kind of player Pioli needs to be hitting on since he is Mr. Universe GM Of The Millenia

Also, the argument isn't that "Pioli should have picked X corner in round 3 or 4 instead of Arenas."

It's only that he could have picked someone else in the 2nd.

Could have easily found a nickel some other way...it's not exactly a hard position to fill.
If the bolded isnt your argument, then why do you keep saying "he should have gotten a guy like him in the third/fourth round herp."

The rate of success of Piolis picks is far greater than most teams.

If you get 2 starters from 1 draft and 1 or 2 more guys that stick on the roster, you are doing well.

We have hit on almost 75% of our picks. (meaning they are solid contributors and are still on the team)

Its a shame Pioli has failed thus far at the most important position, though.

It almost eliminates everything positive he has done.

Think about that for a second.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:19 PM   #244
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75 percent is an absurd number.

Especially since I'm sure you're including guys like Allen Bailey, who are not impressing at the moment.

Pioli screwed up on 8 of 9 picks in ONE DRAFT (including Cassel trade)

There's no way that translates to 75 percent.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #245
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"Solid contributors and are still on the team"

I count 17/24 that are still on the roster from the 3 drafts Pioli has had (Im obviously not gonna count anything from the 2012 draft) and all of them look to contribute this year.

Thats 71%...close enough.

1 26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
2 55 Rodney Hudson C Florida State
3 70 Justin Houston LB Georgia
3 86 Allen Bailey DE Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa

5 140 Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
6 199 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi
7 223 Shane Bannon FB Yale

1 5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
2 36 Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
2 50 Javier Arenas DB Alabama
3 68 Jon Asamoah G Illinois
3 93 Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
4 142 Cameron Sheffield LB Troy
5 136 Kendrick Lewis FS Mississippi


1 3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State

3 67 Alex Magee DT Purdue
4 102 Donald Washington DB Ohio State
5 139 Colin Brown T Missouri
6 175 Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
7 212 Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
7 237 Jake O'Connell TE Miami (Ohio)
7 256 Ryan Succop K South Carolina
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:38 PM   #246
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Jalil Brown? Ricky Stanzi? Jerrell Powe? Allen Bailey? Dexter McCluster? Cameron Sheffield?

JAKE O'CONNELL? TYSON JACKSON?



You think Pioli hit on those picks?



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Old 09-03-2012, 04:40 PM   #247
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Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.
I would dispute the claim that Ryan chokes in big games, but even if he did... a 1pm ET regular season game against a team that finished the previous year bottom of a garbage division is probably not something he considers a big game.
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Yeah, this is definitely not a big game.

This is an NFC powerhouse taking a road trip to take a shit on an AFC bottom feeder.
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I dunno if things are that bad. It is true the falcons O-line is aweful, and the overrall tackling ability of their D leaves a lot to be desired
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:56 PM   #250
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"Solid contributors and are still on the team"

I count 17/24 that are still on the roster from the 3 drafts Pioli has had (Im obviously not gonna count anything from the 2012 draft) and all of them look to contribute this year.

Thats 71%...close enough.

1 26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
2 55 Rodney Hudson C Florida State
3 70 Justin Houston LB Georgia
3 86 Allen Bailey DE Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa

5 140 Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
6 199 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi
7 223 Shane Bannon FB Yale

1 5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
2 36 Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
2 50 Javier Arenas DB Alabama
3 68 Jon Asamoah G Illinois
3 93 Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
4 142 Cameron Sheffield LB Troy
5 136 Kendrick Lewis FS Mississippi


1 3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State

3 67 Alex Magee DT Purdue
4 102 Donald Washington DB Ohio State
5 139 Colin Brown T Missouri
6 175 Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
7 212 Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
7 237 Jake O'Connell TE Miami (Ohio)
7 256 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

contributors? what have they contributed exactly? 3/4s if this list have done nothing good in terms of legitimate NFL production in their careers yet. Absolutely nothing. Pure homerism to crown these guys already even as even role players
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over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.
Cody's a 3 down player All that fat POS has done is bellyflop on Charles in a playoff game
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Yeah, this is definitely not a big game.

This is an NFC powerhouse taking a road trip to take a shit on an AFC bottom feeder.
I don't think they should be taking any road game for granted. Make them one dimensional.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:08 PM   #253
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Jalil Brown? Ricky Stanzi? Jerrell Powe? Allen Bailey? Dexter McCluster? Cameron Sheffield?

JAKE O'CONNELL? TYSON JACKSON?



You think Pioli hit on those picks?



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For players in their second and third years, they contributed quite a bit, actually.

Like I said in the top line "solid contributors that are still on the team"

Tell ya what...

Give me 5 teams in the NFL that had better draft classes over that time period.

Now, dance.
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The guy pimps the shit out of marginal players on other teams. It's pretty funny seeing him bag on someone else.
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The guy pimps the shit out of marginal players on other teams. It's pretty funny seeing him bag on someone else.
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