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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 AM  
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2. Jake Long
2012 Grade: -0.4
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Summary: Two years ago Jake Long was playing in a manner that made many hesitate when judging the Miami Dolphins for passing on Matt Ryan; the Falcons’ signal-caller was elite, but so was Jake Long at the “crucial” position of left tackle. Right now Long is just another example of the “what have you done for me lately” attitude in this league, with the Dolphins seemingly set to let him walk rather than pay him mega-bucks to hang around. Remember, two years ago Long was coming off of three consecutive seasons with a PFF grade of +30.0 or greater and was in the conversation as the league’s best left tackle.

Now, after two injury-affected seasons, Long has seen his performances and his league-wide stock slip somewhat to the extent that some may view him as damaged goods. Even so, Long is still a more than capable left tackle and with the knowledge of the “upside” of the first three years of his career it wouldn’t be a surprise to see someone take a risk on him.

Though he didn’t match his prior level this season, his issue was a couple of dodgy games in pass protection that accounted for a combined -7.4 pass protection grade, as he yielded two sacks, four hits, and four hurries to the Colts and Seahawks. If Long’s value is driven low and he can put the injuries behind him, someone could get a steal here. If not, someone could waste a lot of money on a worn down player entering a downward spiral.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:20 AM   #241
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:22 AM   #242
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Your grasp of football is rivaled only by your command of simple arithmetic.
It's nice that your argument is predicated on a typo.

Just more pointless, argumentative bullshit from you.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:27 AM   #243
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Character was exposed, alright. But not his.
Pat, you're free to believe what you will. But this "person" has been following me around for months, either misquoting me or pulling up old quotes I've made in an attempt to discredit me. This practice started with GoChiefs and this person hopped in.

This is a forum. Most everything is permanent (I say most because early posts are a mess). Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. But I don't need someone constantly pulling up thoughts from years ago in an effort to discredit thoughts from today.

It's petty, obsessive nonsense.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:30 AM   #244
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It's nice that your argument is predicated on a typo.

Just more pointless, argumentative bullshit from you.
I take back my earlier comment about nobody being this dumb. You really take stupidity to new levels. My six year old could score better than 3/5 on a subtraction test. (I don't know if he would be smart enough to take a franchise QB over a LT given the benefit of hindsight, though.)
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:38 AM   #245
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Pat, you're free to believe what you will. But this "person" has been following me around for months, either misquoting me or pulling up old quotes I've made in an attempt to discredit me. This practice started with GoChiefs and this person hopped in.

This is a forum. Most everything is permanent (I say most because early posts are a mess). Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. But I don't need someone constantly pulling up thoughts from years ago in an effort to discredit thoughts from today.

It's petty, obsessive nonsense.
That may well be true and I don't have a problem with you and King going after each other. I just think people should do their trash talking on the public board instead of in PM. And I don't think there's anything wrong with publicizing nasty PMs and rep messages.

And the way we express our current opinions with such certainty (and profanity) encourages people to go back into the archive to find inconsistencies and mistakes. You're certainly not the only person who does this. It's become a bad habit on this board. The Geno mafia do it all the time.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:41 AM   #246
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That may well be true and I don't have a problem with you and King going after each other. I just think people should do their trash talking on the public board instead of in PM. And I don't think there's anything wrong with publicizing nasty PMs and rep messages.

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This concept is interesting and new to me, as the other boards I frequent have a permaban policy on posting PMs.
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Pat, you're free to believe what you will. But this "person" has been following me around for months, either misquoting me or pulling up old quotes I've made in an attempt to discredit me. This practice started with GoChiefs and this person hopped in
I haven't misquoted you. All the quotes I pull up are relevant to the topics. And plus, you're a giant pussy with a napoleon complex so it's kinda fun.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:54 AM   #248
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This concept is interesting and new to me, as the other boards I frequent have a permaban policy on posting PMs.
Message boards are rife with dumb policies. If I give you a reason to believe that the PM you send me will be held in confidence (e.g. I ask you to send your contact info to me via PM), then it shouldn't be publicized. But when someone sends you a nasty or threatening PM so that they can avoid any negative reaction from onlookers, you (the recipient) shouldn't be obligated to protect them.

I think the rule should be that the recipient can decide whether or not to make those messages public unless they've given someone an assurance of secrecy.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:54 AM   #249
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This concept is interesting and new to me, as the other boards I frequent have a permaban policy on posting PMs.
Why? That just gives people a license to be shit heads without consequence. If king didn't ask for a message from Dane, he shouldn't be sworn to keep Dane's comments secret.
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Answer the question:

Have Thomas Dimitroff and the Atlanta Falcons done everything possible to surround Matt Ryan with talent?

You keep avoiding it and I'll just keep hammering your stupid ass.

Trust me, I won't give up.
You mean Thomas Dimitroff did his job as a GM by picking the best QB prospect in the draft that year then surounding him with tallent? OMG GMs can do that?

What quarterbacks have the most wins in the last five years?

I know the Super Bowl is all that really matters but how many has that Dan Marino won?


Edit: & DaneMcCloud I'm not comparing Matt Ryan to Dan Marino so don't say I am.
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Why? That just gives people a license to be shit heads without consequence. If king didn't ask for a message from Dane, he shouldn't be sworn to keep Dane's comments secret.
It just isn't a common policy on the other forums I frequent.


Probably because they're larger and most of the people there are genuine dicks who have released personal/contact info via PMs.

I'm not really sure why. I'll have to find out one day.
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Message boards are rife with dumb policies. If I give you a reason to believe that the PM you send me will be held in confidence (e.g. I ask you to send your contact info to me via PM), then it shouldn't be publicized. But when someone sends you a nasty or threatening PM so that they can avoid any negative reaction from onlookers, you (the recipient) shouldn't be obligated to protect them.

I think the rule should be that the recipient can decide whether or not to make those messages public unless they've given someone an assurance of secrecy.
That's probably best.
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It just isn't a common policy on the other forums I frequent.


Probably because they're larger and most of the people there are genuine dicks who have released personal/contact info via PMs.

I'm not really sure why. I'll have to find out one day.
Releasing personal info is already ban-worthy.
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Pat, you're free to believe what you will. But this "person" has been following me around for months, either misquoting me or pulling up old quotes I've made in an attempt to discredit me. This practice started with GoChiefs and this person hopped in.

This is a forum. Most everything is permanent (I say most because early posts are a mess). Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. But I don't need someone constantly pulling up thoughts from years ago in an effort to discredit thoughts from today.

It's petty, obsessive nonsense.
Funny, being you use Stanzi stuff against me every time you lose the edge in a debate. My thread about taking him in the late second round was from mid season 2010 and you have used it against me in Geno threads at least 5 or 6 times.
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