Practice Squad Announced, Richardson Waived.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Leave one spot open for Richardson if he clears waivers:

• CB Jackie Bates
• TE Tom Crabtree
• DE Dion Gales
• G Darryl Harris
• RB Javarris Williams
• WR Rodney Wright
• Bobby Greenwood
• TBD New England/Dallas/Miami Castoff or Barry Richardson

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09...g_and_dealing/

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Tom Brady's not walking through that door, dirk. Vince Wilfork's not walking through that door and Bill Belichick isn't walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through the door, you're going to be damned disappointed.

Future rep for the Rick "Fellowship Of The Miserable" Pitino quote... ah, good times when he was the Celtics coach... One thing's for sure, we've had some colorful team leaders around New England...

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm with that, I don't see why not taking a shot on these no risk high reward guys

You see 'no risk high reward' guys. I see 'practice squad fodder that has maybe a 1% chance of making it in the league". Which we already have in spades on the roster. So I'm sorry if I'm not gong to get up in arms over the Chiefs not replacing one maybe but probably not with another maybe but probably not off the waiver wire.

Personally I think it's the name recognition thing. People are upset because Pioli's brought it what they see as 'his guys' instead of bringing in their guys. It's the same thing that happens at the end of every April. Work up a list, and if we don't bring in the names on that list, in order, then katie bar the door.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If the Internet had been around in 1989 here are a few CP thread topics:

"Derrick Thomas over broderick Thomas?? **ck You Carl Peterson!!"

"Marty Schotteheimer hired as KC Chiefs coach? **ck you Carl Peterson!!

It would have been "Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders" which in the end both parties would have been right as both ended up being HOF players.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You see 'no risk high reward' guys. I see 'practice squad fodder that has maybe a 1% chance of making it in the league". Which we already have in spades on the roster. So I'm sorry if I'm not gong to get up in arms over the Chiefs not replacing one maybe but probably not with another maybe but probably not off the waiver wire.

Personally I think it's the name recognition thing. People are upset because Pioli's brought it what they see as 'his guys' instead of bringing in their guys. It's the same thing that happens at the end of every April. Work up a list, and if we don't bring in the names on that list, in order, then katie bar the door.

it's jamon meredith redux

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How do any of us know that Haley isnt the next Belickeck?

How do any of us know that Jackson isnt the next Wilfork?

How do we know that Cassel isnt the next Brady?

None us of do. Is Pioli perfect? No. Hes going to make mistakes. Every GM does.

Point is, its waaay too early to bash Pioli IMO.

Well Jackson's not the next Wilfork. They play different positions,
Tom Brady is one of the five best QBs ever, and you can't expect to hit on draft picks like that more than once every 20-30 years.

Even if Pioli is the GOAT, you're asking him to hit on all those acquisitions so perfectly is like expecting Tiger Woods to shoot a 53 at Whistling Straits.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You see 'no risk high reward' guys. I see 'practice squad fodder that has maybe a 1% chance of making it in the league". Which we already have in spades on the roster. So I'm sorry if I'm not gong to get up in arms over the Chiefs not replacing one maybe but probably not with another maybe but probably not off the waiver wire.

Personally I think it's the name recognition thing. People are upset because Pioli's brought it what they see as 'his guys' instead of bringing in their guys. It's the same thing that happens at the end of every April. Work up a list, and if we don't bring in the names on that list, in order, then katie bar the door.

Disagree with that take, there are numerous people on this very forum that know far more about college ball and it's players to just be getting worked up about names.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

When Pioli does something good beyond the Gonzo trade, let me know.

That's kinda how I feel.

The pro-Pioli folks gushed over how he was responsible for 3 SB wins, has won numerous Executive of the Year awards, and how he was going to come here and cure cancer, all while leading the organization out of the Dark Ages and into contending for a division title Year One.

Now, things aren't going as planned, so the "well, things were SO bad, no one could be expected to fix things this quick."

I'd love to hear someone tell me what he's done that has excited them as a fan, given them hope that better days are ahead - other than, "Well, it's better than Carl", or "be patient, he sat on his hands for 6 months with the worst OL in football, let's see if these last minute moves he made, swapping scrubs for scrubs pan out."

I want the guy to be successful too, but I'm not going to ignore the huge red flags that are surrounding every move we've made, sans the Gonzo deal.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i think this sums the thread up perfectly

It does, but not for any reason that you are capable of understanding.

Pioli has not been some super-GM so far. He's been thoroughly average. His moves have been inefficient, slow, and occasionally nonsensical. He's done an just-ok job at best, which does not leave him in a position where he shouldn't be bashed for the things that one may disagree with.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Even if they are, Cassel still dies behind this line. You couldn't make a Madden QB that could survive behind this line with this schedule.

Here's the problem though: when guys are playing for their livelihoods, and not just the result on Sundays, and they are getting their asses whipped by the third teamers of the St. Louis Rams, it doesn't bode well for their ability.

I would probably guess the ones that really really sucked playing for their livelihoods aren't here anymore.

My whole point though is I am willing to give these guys 2-3 years to build the team they want and if it doesn't work out then I will bash them endlessly. That doesn't mean I don't disagree with some of their moves but then again I don't know what is going through their brains when making those moves. With Carl it became easy to see what he was trying to do.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'd love to hear someone tell me what he's done that has excited them as a fan, given them hope that better days are ahead

He cut Sackintosh and Pollard. Carl would have never done that.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

It does, but not for any reason that you are capable of understanding.

Pioli has not been some super-GM so far. He's been thoroughly average. His moves have been inefficient, slow, and occasionally nonsensical. He's done an just-ok job at best, which does not leave him in a position where he shouldn't be bashed for the things that one may disagree with.

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[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

When Pioli does something really smart beyond the Gonzo trade, let me know.

I actually disagreed with that considering Cassell has no one to throw to now

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I actually disagreed with that considering Cassell has no one to throw to now

So in your case that means he has made no good moves?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When he makes a move for a QB and then gives him a franchise QB type of deal saying this is "my guy" he should have gone to the OL before the DL.

That's common sense in my view.

I agree with that. And they shouldn't have traded their very best player and receiver so their franchise QB has no one to throw to now

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

He cut Sackintosh and Pollard. Carl would have never done that.

Oh, and the first thing he did when he came to KC was took a look around and saw Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen and went: WTF?? Then immediatly went out and made a deal for a real QB.