Other Sports Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan - Page 18

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2014, 01:50 PM

Http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=10426105

Just curious... If the fan called Smart a racial slur, was he justified for shoving the fan.

I think its an interesting debate about where the line should be drawn for fans to get away with jawing at players. Let's first see if there's any truth to this. My personal opinion is that sports should have leeway for fan behavior, but there's a line that fans too often cross.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Lol that's one of the most obscure straw men I can remember on this forum.

What's obscure about it and why is it a straw man? Do you believe true objectivity actually exists? Because everyone has biases based on their experiences/perspectives. I can actually admit to mine in this instance (I'm a huge fan of Smart and hate this kind of fan culture). Can you?

KC native · 02-09-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

What are you talking about? The video camera was facing the court, it was hit by Smart when he went off the floor and turned all the way around. Then once Smart went into the stands the photographer starts to turn it around but leaves it still more pointing towards the incident, than towards the court. Almost sideways, but when you hear "piece of shit" the camera is turned around.

Watch it again. It gets slightly turned to the left not all the way around. Definitively saying that it did pick up what the Sand Aggie fan said is ridiculous.

Edit: So I watched it again, and it does get spun around but immediately picked back up. Even then the camera is pointing away from the guy when the piece of crap comment comes in. That video doesn't prove anything

a pp roach · 02-09-2014, 06:26 PM

guy shouldn't have been talking shit, lucky he didn't get his ass knocked out

loved it

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

What's obscure about it and why is it a straw man? Do you believe true objectivity actually exists? Because everyone has biases based on their experiences/perspectives. I can actually admit to mine in this instance (I'm a huge fan of Smart and hate this kind of fan culture). Can you?

It's like talking to a walrus. You just keep getting the same gurgling sound back.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

It's like talking to a walrus. You just keep getting the same gurgling sound back.

Anyway, thanks for chiming in just to take a shot at me that made no sense. Great dialogue we got going. Maybe next time you'll actually form an opinion.

Ceej · 02-09-2014, 06:35 PM

This is going to be a long debate until there's some super, 100% hard evidence.

Let's try not to get too carried away.

greatgooglymoogly · 02-09-2014, 06:41 PM

I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

BigRock · 02-09-2014, 06:46 PM

If it had happened with 8 minutes to go before halftime, I wouldn't have cared if Smart punched him in the nuts. But he cost his team a game because he let some middle aged jocksniffer get to him? Piss off.

Reerun_KC · 02-09-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

Ford shouldn't have a job... Smart has ran that team all season anyway... You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

If it had happened with 8 minutes to go before halftime, I wouldn't have cared if Smart punched him in the nuts. But he cost his team a game because he let some middle aged jocksniffer get to him? Piss off.

Smart was the only reason his team was in the game. Also, the game would have been over if he didn't rush back to commit the foul on the open layup.

It's really the next 3 games that his shove is probably going to cost them that I'm sure he feels bad about.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

And this would be called projecting your own feelings onto others.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Anyway, thanks for chiming in just to take a shot at me that made no sense. Great dialogue we got going. Maybe next time you'll actually form an opinion.

It's not a viable dialogue when one is closing his eyes and shouting at the top of his lungs to drown out everyone else. It's pointless.

greatgooglymoogly · 02-09-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Ford shouldn't have a job... Smart has ran that team all season anyway... You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

I have many Cowboy friends and family, and they were all leery of Ford before this season. They were willing to forgive him if they made the Sweet 16 at an absolute minimum (and the most boisterous among them demanded a Final 4 appearance). I don't know about that, but their roster is certainly talented enough to win two tournament games, and they may not even get there now. Flare-ups like this can be traced back to the coach and his ineffectiveness.

Reerun_KC · 02-09-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And this would be called projecting your own feelings onto others.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'd probably have given him one or two. He shoved an asshole fan that insulted him. You can't allow that, but it's not like the guy didn't have it coming.

Yes you want to soap and rinse Smarts dick of all wrong doing, while all blame goes on the fan...

How about being accountable for your actions?

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

My uncle is a booster for OSU, and while he's not actively campaigning for Ford to be fired... there are some already carrying that torch.

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