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Old 08-22-2024, 11:03 AM   #1
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Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.
12 personnel should be pretty effective for them.

Though they probably should've held onto Jacobs if they intended to feature it. Hard for me to get two worried about Zamir White/Alexander Mattison.
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Old 08-22-2024, 10:13 AM   #2
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I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.
In fairness most of the above were first round picks or high seconds and a lot on bad teams without a lot of competition at that position.
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Old 08-22-2024, 10:08 AM   #3
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Old 08-23-2024, 03:47 PM   #4
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Honestly...I quite liked the look of Cupp in these preseason games. I know he's playing against the backups to backups, but he looked pretty decent. Certainly showed more than Irv Smith and honestly maybe Wiley. Again, level of competition matters I guess
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Old 08-23-2024, 08:04 PM   #5
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So what’s the feel on this kid around here?

Was largely invisible during the games but the QB play was dog shit. I guess it’s still way too early.
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A month removed from the preseason, are there any thoughts on whether or not Wiley "flashed" enough to potentially carve out a role with Rice broken?

Does he have burst, et cetera.
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A month removed from the preseason, are there any thoughts on whether or not Wiley "flashed" enough to potentially carve out a role with Rice broken?

Does he have burst, et cetera.
Well, I saw him absolutely whiff on a backside block yesterday, so he has that going for him. He's been targeted 1 time this season. Given our offensive struggles, I'm guessing we would have brought him out of hiding by now if there was something there that we could expose. Maybe they unleash Wiley Package of Greatness on MNF against the Saints?
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Old 03-19-2025, 09:40 AM   #9
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Very excited for this guy. Let’s not forget Kelce ended up on IR his rookie year too.

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Wiley in 2025

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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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And that’s being optimistic.
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And that’s being optimistic.
In fairness, we’re many excited about Kelce
In the 2013 offseason headed into 2014??
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In fairness, we’re many excited about Kelce
In the 2013 offseason headed into 2014??
The number of people crying bust when the dreaded microfracture in the knee came to light was astounding.

Might be time to dust that thread off.
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