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Old 08-04-2006, 11:27 AM  
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Why do we have trouble drafting WRs ?
Any ideas ?

Carls weakness is offensive personel ? He could never find a young qb also.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:58 AM   #16
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some good 2nd day Wideouts


Joe Horn 5th
Derrick Mason 4th round (98th overall)
Donald Driver 7th round (213th overall)
Torry Holt 137th overall

alot less success in the later rounds.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:00 PM   #17
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some good 2nd day Wideouts

Javon Walker 8th
Joe Horn 5th
Derrick Mason 6th
Donald Driver 7th


alot less success in the later rounds
Javon Walker was a first rounder.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:01 PM   #18
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TO wasn't a first rounder, I believe he was a third.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:03 PM   #19
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Gunthers draft picks - Wr Morris , Safety Bartee ?

Maybe Gunther was part of the problem.

Don't let coaches make picks unless the coach is JJ or Parcells.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:14 PM   #20
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Drafting WR and QB is a crap shoot. Even in the first round, your chances of getting a star are about 1 in 3. The Chiefs have NEVER drafted a QB that turned into a regular consistent starter for them. WR they have done a little better (Otis Taylor, Henry Marshall) but not in recent years.
Even Stephan Paige was a rookie free agent for KC, undrafted in 12 rounds. We let Joe Horn go just as he was finally developing.

WR and QB are the hardest positions to project into the pros, no doubt.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:17 PM   #21
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tell that to

Randy Moss 1st round (21st pick)
Terrell Owens 3rd round (28th pick)
marvin harrison 1st round (19th overall
Chad Johnson Round:2 Pick:5
Steve Smith Round:3 Pick:12
Hines Ward 3rd round, #98 overall
Santana Moss first round (16th overall)
Javon Walker With 1st Round Pick (20 Overall)

all of them 1st day draft picks most of the in the 1st round!

So you've gone back 10 years, and found 4 first rounders, and 8 in the first 3 rounds.

You have proven my point. Thanks.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:19 PM   #22
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some good 2nd day Wideouts


Joe Horn 5th
Derrick Mason 4th round (98th overall)
Donald Driver 7th round (213th overall)
Torry Holt 137th overall

alot less success in the later rounds.

While you are researching, could you go ahead and just post a comprehensive list of WRs taken in rounds 1 and 2 in the past 5-8years?
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Take a look at the draft history of most NFL teams and they're littered but WR busts.
Detroit would be a good case study on the difficulties of drafting WR talent.
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Detroit would be a good case study on the difficulties of drafting WR talent.
Not really. You have to take in account who is drafting players for Detroit. Not the sharpest tack in the box.
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Not really. You have to take in account who is drafting players for Detroit. Not the sharpest tack in the box.
Every other NFL talent evaluator had these guys ranked among the top 10 draft prospects. The Lions were idiots for investing so much in one position, but not because people didn't think the players they drafted would be good.
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Torry Holt 137th overall

What? Torry Holt was the 6th overall draft pick of the Rams in 1999. You must be confusing him with his brother Terrance, who's a CB.
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We don't. Samie Parker was an excellent pick and is poised for his first 1,000 yard season.

I like the potential of Crap Thorpe and I think Jeff Webb is one of the most talented sixth-rounders I've ever seen. I can't believe he lasted that long.
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What do you see in Jeff Webb ?
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Not really. You have to take in account who is drafting players for Detroit. Not the sharpest tack in the box.
Ok, that's a hindsight dismissal...those WR's in college were the premiere talent in the NCAA game. I can see taking a shot at one and missing but going 0-3 says something about the difficulty to get WR's to take their game from college to pros.
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What do you see in Jeff Webb ?
I haven't seen him but I hear he's a good athlete that has made some good catches. I hope he makes the team.
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