Brown or Fish?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He has heavy feet. He might not.

But that doesn't mean it wasn't a wholly acceptable risk to have taken.

He was a perfect fit in Baltimore where rushers can't blast upfield because their style and Jackson's speed will take advantage of them. He was in a situation where his weakness was disguised by system and surrounding talent.

That's just not the case here. In Kansas City his weaknesses aren't just exposed, they're highlighted. I'm not sure it's fair to say he'll just 'grow into the job'. There's a fair chance he just won't.

First thing I'd do is ask him to drop 30 lbs. No way he should be playing at 380.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

First thing I'd do is ask him to drop 30 lbs. No way he should be playing at 380.

Exactly. This seems to be a huge part of the problem.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by 65TPT

Brown has pedigree. He will grow into the job.

He does not and will not. He is playing out of his natural position.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by 65TPT

Brown has pedigree. He will grow into the job.

Wasn't his father a career RT though?

[DaFace]

In their prime? Fish without question. But that guy is gone. Given the situation (especially cap implications), Brown is probably still the better choice.

But I wish there was a third option.

[Gary Cooper]

Isn't there a large age difference between them? You take the younger player.

Brown is a pretty good RT. He needs to understand he's a liability at LT. If he wants to stay there, he needs to play better. The issue is, who else plays LT? Do we draft a LT next year? Move Niang to LT?

Same thing with Jones at DE. If he wants to play there, he can't make every opposing tackle look like Anthony Munoz.

[Straight, No Chaser]

It wasn't just Fisher it was Schwartz too.
Both of them on the field at the same time. Patrick was obviously more comfortable with those two. Schwartz was underrated and underappreciated. Dude was a solid RT, especially going up against the best in the league.

[ntexascardfan]

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

Or try Niang at LT this season.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Or try Niang at LT this season.

Because Niang was doing so well at an 'easier' position.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

I agree with this post.

Brown is built for RT. He has the rest of the year to prove me wrong, but I suspect that this LT experiment is a failure. That's fine. You want two elite tackles; however, if you extend him, it needs to be to lock down the right side for the rest of his career.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I agree with this post.

Brown is built for RT. He has the rest of the year to prove me wrong, but I suspect that this LT experiment is a failure. That's fine. You want two elite tackles; however, if you extend him, it needs to be to lock down the right side for the rest of his career.

Isn't necessarily the worst thing. Maybe gives us a discount on his next contract. At the very least it won't be LT money.

[The Franchise]

Brown is fine if you aren’t trying to drop back 10 steps. Go back to the ball control 10-12 play drives. Cut out the turnovers and we’d be fine.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Brown is fine if you aren’t trying to drop back 10 steps. Go back to the ball control 10-12 play drives. Cut out the turnovers and we’d be fine.

Here's the sad truth.

Put Brown at LT in for SB LIV and ask the question -- "Do we have time to run Wasp?"

And the answer is no.

This cannot be the same team we're used to with Brown. And it's not because he's a bad player, he's just not the right kind of player for that sort of approach. He can still be a quality LT for us but Mahomes needs to build trust with him and we need to do more things that cover for his athletic limitations.

Could the Chiefs have still won that Super Bowl with Brown instead of Fisher? Yeah - but they couldn't have done it the way they did. And it seems like they're still trying to.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's the sad truth.

Put Brown at LT in for SB LIV and ask the question -- "Do we have time to run Wasp?"

And the answer is no.

This cannot be the same team we're used to with Brown. And it's not because he's a bad player, he's just not the right kind of player for that sort of approach. He can still be a quality LT for us but Mahomes needs to build trust with him and we need to do more things that cover for his athletic limitations.

Could the Chiefs have still won that Super Bowl with Brown instead of Fisher? Yeah - but they couldn't have done it the way they did. And it seems like they're still trying to.

Wasn't Fisher holding on that play? Or are you saying Brown is too slow to even get his hands on someone to hold them?