Brown or Fish?

[bricks]

I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players.

I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy.

Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid.

What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know
if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask.

Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by loochy

What LT talent will be available in the middle positions of the next draft? I assume we'll pick in the 9-20 range.

Probably looking at Nick Petit-Frere (Ohio State), Trevor Penning (Northern Iowa), and Rasheed Walker (Penn State).

Looks to be some decent RT prospects on day 2 in Abraham Lucas (Washington State), Obinna Eze (Texas Christian, might be a LT), and Braxton Jones (Southern Utah).

[xztop123]

Why has no one mentioned giving a call to Mitchell Schwartz

And any other left tackle who could fill a spot

[mnchiefsguy]

After seeing Fisher Sunday night get his ass handed to him repeatedly by the 49ers, it is obvious he is nowhere close to where he was pre-injury.

[wachashi]

The coaching staff and Mahomes need to fit the scheme to Brown's strengths and limitations as long as he's our LT. He's still going to make mistakes just like all players do, but there's enough tape on what Brown can and can't do in a Chiefs uniform that there's no excuse for Mahomes to be in as many dangerous positions as he was on Sunday. He's going to get killed if that continues.

Fisher, in his best years, had quick enough feet to keep up with quick edge rushers taking long bends and arcs towards the QB. Brown simply cannot do it. Fit the scheme to the players, not the players to the scheme.

[KentuckyChief]

I know we all love hypotheticals here, but what the hell does this even matter, Fish ain’t here anymore. How many years did I listen to the “I hate Fish” crowd and now that he’s gone and Brown hasn’t been as good as billed, we’re all like Fish was soooo good! We are the worst at letting the past go.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

I agree with this post.

Brown is built for RT. He has the rest of the year to prove me wrong, but I suspect that this LT experiment is a failure. That's fine. You want two elite tackles; however, if you extend him, it needs to be to lock down the right side for the rest of his career.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Brown ****ing sucks. He can't block speed. He's just big as hell with long arms. Veach ****ed up and wasted another first 2 years in a row. Clyde is another waste of a first.

No tackle can block speed consistently when they know you are going to pass, they line up 2 yards outside and are taught to edge rush to 10-12 yards against the Chiefs because Mahomes floats back every ****ing time. We all love Mahomes, but this is the biggest adjustment defenses have made. Against Mahomes in passing downs their edge players are coached to take an angle that's way deeper than normal and this needs to corrected.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Why has no one mentioned giving a call to Mitchell Schwartz

And any other left tackle who could fill a spot

Because hes an old RIGHT tackle with a serious back issue who couldnt play for an entire season last year. He's done, let it go.

[Hammock Parties]

Schwartz weighs 250 now.


Let the past go.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I agree with this post.

Brown is built for RT. He has the rest of the year to prove me wrong, but I suspect that this LT experiment is a failure. That's fine. You want two elite tackles; however, if you extend him, it needs to be to lock down the right side for the rest of his career.

Isn't necessarily the worst thing. Maybe gives us a discount on his next contract. At the very least it won't be LT money.

[cmh6476]

It's too bad he can't block Clark and Jones week in and week out

[saphojunkie]

It helps me to think of us having drafted Creed Humphrey in the first round and trading a 2nd for Orlando Brown.

[Iowanian]

Brown is a dismal failure at LT. Dismal.

He's closer to Jordan Black than Fish.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

No tackle can block speed consistently when they know you are going to pass, they line up 2 yards outside and are taught to edge rush to 10-12 yards against the Chiefs because Mahomes floats back every ****ing time. We all love Mahomes, but this is the biggest adjustment defenses have made. Against Mahomes in passing downs their edge players are coached to take an angle that's way deeper than normal and this needs to corrected.

Or find Tackles that can block better and let our special QB do special things his way. Orlando Brown can hardly block an edge rusher no matter the splits. All he's got is that push, every time, once an edge guy blows by him. Dude is too slow for anything else. He's no LT and if he must play tackle, he's a RT at best but probably better suited for Guard than he is Tackle.

But WTF do I know? (I knew enough to raise an eyebrow at several of our recent moves / decisions, just like most here)

[BossChief]

Russel Okung can’t be worse than Brown, can he?