DV's Take on the RB's

[bkkcoh]

[QUOTE]VERMEIL: "I see Priest Holmes as a complete package. I don't see him as a Marshall Faulk because there's only one of those guys. But I do see him as a guy that's very reliable, very aggressive, that runs the ball well, blocks for other people carrying the ball well and in pass protection, and catches the ball very well. I see competition. I see (RB) Mike Cloud being a better football player than I came here thinking he was because he didn't get to play much. I see (RB) Frank Moreau maybe being the real sleeper of the whole group. He's about 15 pounds lighter than he was a year ago and has shown real grace and speed. I see (RB) Derrick Blaylock, a rookie that we drafted, as being the most explosive of all of them. Of course, (RB/FB) Tony Richardson might be the most underrated player on the whole football team."[/QUOTE]

If he is such a good judge of talent, I don't think we should worry too much about our RB's, but we will see.

[milkman]

PacFan,
I guess you have film of Holmes just lying around the house that you can just check out any time.

Watching film of Holmes reminds you of Donnell Bennett?
Uhhh.....That comparison really lends credibility to your knowledge of football.

Oh, and before you start telling me how as a Chief fan I just put on my blinders and just pimp all players that the Chiefs sign, I am not one that thinks Priest is the answer to the Chiefs RB woes, so don't waste effort using that to tell me how I don't know anything about football.

[KCJohnny]

Two words:

TONY RICHARDSON.

KCJ

[Brock]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KCJohnny [/i]
[B]Two words:

TONY RICHARDSON.

KCJ [/B][/QUOTE]

Two more words: Decent Fullback.

[California Injun]

Well this certainly clears up the RB positional depth chart.

This sounds like a freaking RBBC all over again!!!:mad:

[KCJohnny]

NoCal said it, not me (I thought it, but decided against providing another opportunity for the planet party line to smother me).
KCJ
Innocent bystander:eek:

[Abba-Dabba]

[QUOTE]Watching film of Priest Holmes reminds me of Donnell Bennett. [/QUOTE]

I truly do not know what game film you have been watching(personally I don't think you watched any) Preist Holmes reminds you of Donnell Bennett, how? Donnell Bennett 6'0 240lbs has caught a grand total of 51 balls in his 7yr pro career, Bennett has a inside run mentality with inside running skills, Holmes 5'9 205lbs on the other hand caught 32 balls last year alone being a b/u, Holmes prefers to work in space out on the edge of the field. I am sorry but really I have not seen someone so incompetent on players in such along time

[milkman]

I just figured out what the Planet party line is that Johnny keeps refering to.
Disagree with anything and everything that Johnny spews.

But why wasn't I told about this?
Guess since I was already so diageeable with Johnny, you didn't feel the need to include me, right?

[mcan]

We won't see Blaylock much as a rookie, but maybe later. As for now, Priest (who is nothing at all like Bennett) will carry the load and be spelled by Moreau. Richardson will get a bunch of carries at Fullback, but the reason we haven't been good lately, is all of this one back set crap. there are NO LEAD BLOCKERS IN A ONE BACK SET. T Rich was making a name for himself as a great lead blocker and all around fullback untill this two tight end crap. Watch the tapes. Linebackers fill the gaps in a one back set and the running back gets met at the line. 2 yard gain. With a decent lead blocker and a good O line in the mix ANY running back can get 3-4 yards. That's why Marcus was so good. He knew better than anyone how to follow his blockers. he wasn't fast or shifty or powerful. He was smart, and Paul Hackett knew how to run the ball. The only good part about a one back set, is when the linebackers go to fill the gaps, it leaves them vulnerable to the play action passes. Again, watch the games and you'll see what I mean.

[keg in kc]

Mark my words and feel free to use them against me in 6 months, for I'm confident enough in this to say the following:

[b]The [i]only[/i] way we will have RBbC in Kansas City in 2001 is as a result of injuries.[/b]

The winner of the starting HB job, almost certainly Priest Holmes at this point, [b]will[/b] get about 65-70% of the touches. Tony Richardson will still have a role, albeit at fullback and playing singleback with Holmes split wide (they'll both be on the field a lot).

Is Holmes the long-term answer?

No. I don't think so.

But he's the 2001 answer, and RBbC is d-e-a-d (again, barring injury).

I see the following:

HB1 Holmes 225-250 carries and 50-60 receptions total, or, roughly, 18 touches/game (15 carries, 3 receptions)
HB2 Moreau 25 carries, 5-10 receptions
HB3 Blaylock 15 carries, 5 receptions

FB1 Richardson 80-100 carries and 25-35 receptions total, or, roughly, 7 touches/game (5 carries, 2 receptions)
FB2 Layne 15 carries

I do see it as possible that the bridge between Holmes and Richardson may be slightly closer, say 225 to 125 (carries), but I am of the opinion that we [b]will[/b] have a featured back in 2001.

IMHO the Cloud talk is in the hopes that some team (New England?) will bite on a trade involving a mid to low round pick.

No matter how Holmes performs (good or bad) I believe the 2002 draft will see us draft a running back in the first two rounds (and a QBotF).

This will be a fun training camp to watch though, especially at running back. ;)

[aturnis]

Can't wait to see Tony....he should THRIVE in this offense!

Aturnis
-Tony Richardson......Better than decent Fullback

[nickman]

I for one think this will have to play itself out.. Wish this debate was about two or three great talents that no matter who was picked would be a stud, but I don't see it. It sure is interesting reading though. I think this debate will continue all through the year. Everone seems to have a valid argument (with the exception of the Bennett versus Holmes comparision) although I see little support for Cloud. So I am going to jump in his corner for fun...

[KCJohnny]

Milk,
You don't tote the party line.
You hate everything equally.
KCJ;)

[Packfan]

cooter, milk,

I saw highlights from last year and I watched Neb-Texas on ESPN classics. To me, Priest looks like Bennett. Who does he look like to you guys? Barry Sanders?

Just once, I would like to see the Chiefs play one of their runningbacks that they drafted. They have spent a lot of picks on RBs that never get an honest chance. Either they just dont believe in playing younger guys, or Carl did a horrible job of scouting/drafting and these guys (Sheehee, Hill, Moreau, ect) suck.

[milkman]

Com'on Pac.
Priest Holmes resembles Bennnett about as much as a motorcycle resembles a tank.
It's a stupid comparison.

You want to make a comparison.
How about Adrian Murrel.
Both solid jouneyman RBs with some talent and somewhat similiar attributes and style, that have had some success, but should not be asked to carry the load.

Holmes shouldn't be the featured back, IMO, but a combination of him and and T-Rich could be an effective duo.

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot! :p

[donkhater]

I don't think Moreau sucks. Look at some game film from last season and you'll notice he was much improved late in the season (Denver for instance) than he was earlier. I, for one, noticed he was cutting back into the hole and hitting it fairly strongly and showed some nice speed. I agree with Vermiel when he says Moreau is a real darkhorse.

As for his comments on Cloud, I'll believe it when I see it.