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Braincase · 09-22-2008, 11:43 AM

WTF is our plan? We're way under the cap. Are we stockpiling cash for an uncapped year? Are we setting ourselves up to have multiple first round picks the year there's a defined rookie salary? I can't help but speculate that the Chiefs acould have a nice little warchest coinciding with an uncapped year about the same time the stadium improvements are finished, followed by a draft that could have slotted salaries for the incoming rookies.

What do y'all think?

OctoberFart · 09-22-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

WTF is our plan? We're way under the cap. Are we stockpiling cash for an uncapped year? Are we setting ourselves up to have multiple first round picks the year there's a defined rookie salary? I can't help but speculate that the Chiefs acould have a nice little warchest coinciding with an uncapped year about the same time the stadium improvements are finished, followed by a draft that could have slotted salaries for the incoming rookies.

What do y'all think?

If you think they are waiting on a splash on free agency to make a competitive team then you my friend are a moron. Free agents are free agents for a reason and for the most part are expensive busts. Drafting is how you build championships.

Braincase · 09-23-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

If you think they are waiting on a splash on free agency to make a competitive team then you my friend are a moron. Free agents are free agents for a reason and for the most part are expensive busts. Drafting is how you build championships.

How is Rich Gannon these days?

suds79 · 09-23-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

We could fill the OL department bigtime though 1st round Oher 2nd round possibilities of Duke Robinson or Herman Johnson

We'd still stink because we wouldn't have a QB. Anyways, that's not my main point.

Those guys are studs but is that what this team has come to? Do we have to have an O-line full of high 1st & 2nd rounders to be good?

What does that say about our coaches? We have to have reliable/good starters from the late rounder guys. No team can afford to have that much $$ tied up all in the O-line.

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 12:44 PM

Ok I just got on a website and charted out our picks with potential trades in a 7th rd draft tell me what you guys think:

First Trades:

Larry Johnson to Tampa Bay for 2nd and 5th rd his stock has gone down

Trade 2nd overall pick to Vikings for 1st 2nd and 5th picks

Trade Tony Gonzalez to Eagles for 28th pick in first rd give tony a chance to win

Trade our 2nd and tampa bay fifth or Rams 2nd

Trade our 4th rd pick for ATL forth and 129th and 135th pick

trade 130th 5th and swap of 6th picks To SF for Alex Smith change of scenery

168th 6th to Cleveland for 171 and 203 in 7th

**The Franchise** · 09-23-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Ok I just got on a website and charted out our picks with potential trades in a 7th rd draft tell me what you guys think:

First Trades:

Larry Johnson to Tampa Bay for 2nd and 5th rd his stock has gone down

Trade 2nd overall pick to Vikings for 1st 2nd and 5th picks

Trade Tony Gonzalez to Eagles for 28th pick in first rd give tony a chance to win

Trade our 2nd and tampa bay fifth or Rams 2nd

Trade our 4th rd pick for ATL forth and 129th and 135th pick

trade 130th 5th and swap of 6th picks To SF for Alex Smith change of scenery

168th 6th to Cleveland for 171 and 203 in 7th

You're ****ing reeruned.

rambleonthruthefog · 09-23-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Trade 2nd overall pick to Vikings for 1st 2nd and 5th picks

i don't think the vikings will just give us thier 1st and 5th pick.

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 01:06 PM

now for the draft according to nfl draft blitzs mock draft 7 rds:

1st rd 12th pick MLB Rey Maualugga from USC: Shores up our mlb for next 8 to 10 yrs

1st rd 28th pick OT Michael OHer from Ole Miss: Falls cause of depth elsewhere

2nd rd 33rd pick OLB Brian Cushing from USC: no more weak linebacking with these 2

2nd rd 44th pick C Antoine Caldwell from Alabama: he's a wrecking crew

2nd rd 48th pick Rb/KR C.J. Spiller from Clemson: not every down back but situational

3rd rd 66th pick OT Phill Loadholt from Oklahoma: big RT what we need falls bc of DUI

4th Rd 103rd pick DE Ian Campbell from KSU: which is him 11.5 sacks or 4.5 potential

5th Rd 129th pick QB Chase Daniel from Missouri: Gritty leader maybe too short wrth it

5th rd 135th pick WR Patrick Turner from USC: big target tremendous potential

5th rd 140th pick CB/KR Bruce Johnson from Miami: great speed better kr

6th rd 171st pick OG Andy Kemp from Wisconsin: Good solid Guard

7th rd 194th pick DE Derek Walker from Illinois: Falls because of work ethic ; steal

7th rd 203rd pick OLB/Mlb Chris Evans from Auburn: Tough and will earn pt on ST

ok here you go

I think this draft rebuilds the lines and LB core

I know lack of a first rd Qb is gonna be major gripe but Im under the assumption this is not a team which can be fixed overnight.

Maybe we get lucky with Alex Smith or Chase daniel if not we have a strong OL and we bring in QB in 2010 draft or get a young free agent.

shitgoose · 09-23-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Ok I just got on a website and charted out our picks with potential trades in a 7th rd draft tell me what you guys think:

First Trades:

Larry Johnson to Tampa Bay for 2nd and 5th rd his stock has gone down

Trade 2nd overall pick to Vikings for 1st 2nd and 5th picks

Trade Tony Gonzalez to Eagles for 28th pick in first rd give tony a chance to win

Trade our 2nd and tampa bay fifth or Rams 2nd

Trade our 4th rd pick for ATL forth and 129th and 135th pick

trade 130th 5th and swap of 6th picks To SF for Alex Smith change of scenery

168th 6th to Cleveland for 171 and 203 in 7th

I think you just wasted a bunch of your time on something that makes absolutely no sense and will never happen

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 01:09 PM

some people on here are such a pleasure to communicate with

ok if you read I said we would trade our 2nd pick in the draft to Minnesota for there 1rst 2nd and fifth

the qb they want is there they will do the trade seeing as they don't need much us on the other hand we need alot.

**The Franchise** · 09-23-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

some people on here are such a pleasure to communicate with

ok if you read I said we would trade our 2nd pick in the draft to Minnesota for there 1rst 2nd and fifth

the qb they want is there they will do the trade seeing as they don't need much us on the other hand we need alot.

We'd be easier to communicate with if you would realistically set shit up. We're not going to make 7 trades in the draft. We're not going to trade Gonzo or LJ.

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 01:21 PM

you know what more people would be willing to communicate on here if jerks like you didn't blast them for putting an opinion up an opinion isn't wrong because you think it is.

first of all take off the rose colored glasses this team stinks and we need to get better we traded our best DE what makes you think we won't trade our best two bargaining chips?

by the way LJ was offered for Quinn so your talk they won't trade LJ is blown right there

Tony Gonzalez is our best chip to play we all love him but know he is on the decline by the time we are any good.

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee we aren't good and we need draft picks this is a good draft.

Why don't you analyze that instead of bagging on the way we accquired the picks.

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 01:24 PM

I get asked by the moderators why I don't post this is why

I love the chiefs and I am disgusted by the display I 've seen so I was currious if It could be fixed in this draft so I tried to.

Then I thought it would be fun to post it up here and get some intelligent discussion but I guess that's impossible here.

**The Franchise** · 09-23-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

you know what more people would be willing to communicate on here if jerks like you didn't blast them for putting an opinion up an opinion isn't wrong because you think it is.

first of all take off the rose colored glasses this team stinks and we need to get better we traded our best DE what makes you think we won't trade our best two bargaining chips?

by the way LJ was offered for Quinn so your talk they won't trade LJ is blown right there

Tony Gonzalez is our best chip to play we all love him but know he is on the decline by the time we are any good.

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee we aren't good and we need draft picks this is a good draft.

Why don't you analyze that instead of bagging on the way we accquired the picks.

Let's analyze this shall we.

We traded our best DE for two reasons. Picks and he wanted the hell out of here. We actually got more for him than I thought we would.

LJ won't get shit because he's not an all around back and he's been worked in the last couple of years. Teams don't want to trade for a RB they can only play on 1st and 2nd downs. Gonzo won't get traded because the front office won't do it. Gonzo is the face of this franchise. They know that if they trade him (good or bad) the fans will revolt.

Show me proof that LJ was offered for Quinn. All I've seen is an article stating that the Chiefs contacted the Browns about Quinn and were told that he wasn't available. So until there is proof that an LJ for Quinn deal was offered....I'm not believing it.

I didn't blast your post. I called it reeruned. It's reeruned to come in Week 3 with a mock draft where we trade seven times throughout the draft and all of a sudden we come up with all of these great players in the 1st round. Oher is not falling till the 28th pick.

chiefscafan · 09-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Its according to draft blitz's mock I didn't make it up I have no idea why Oher fell that far they said because of the talent that is in the draft. Also that most people grabbed ol last year.

I'm sorry if I blasted you I thought it would be fun to try to fix the chiefs. My privilidges for some reason were taken off of this and I can only reply not post anymore.

I am disgusted by what I see I just want to see some kind of sign of life from this team.

If you are a chief fan you know what I mean I'm sorry I lashed out at you but take away from OHer falling what do you think.

I'm worried Carl peterson has roally screwed up this franchise and if he gives himself an extension I may be done being a chief fan for a while.

what are your thoughts

09-22-2008, 11:43 AM
Braincase Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn Casino cash: $11298284	The Future and the State of the Chiefs WTF is our plan? We're way under the cap. Are we stockpiling cash for an uncapped year? Are we setting ourselves up to have multiple first round picks the year there's a defined rookie salary? I can't help but speculate that the Chiefs acould have a nice little warchest coinciding with an uncapped year about the same time the stadium improvements are finished, followed by a draft that could have slotted salaries for the incoming rookies. What do y'all think?
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09-23-2008, 12:44 PM	#19
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Ok I just got on a website and charted out our picks with potential trades in a 7th rd draft tell me what you guys think: First Trades: Larry Johnson to Tampa Bay for 2nd and 5th rd his stock has gone down Trade 2nd overall pick to Vikings for 1st 2nd and 5th picks Trade Tony Gonzalez to Eagles for 28th pick in first rd give tony a chance to win Trade our 2nd and tampa bay fifth or Rams 2nd Trade our 4th rd pick for ATL forth and 129th and 135th pick trade 130th 5th and swap of 6th picks To SF for Alex Smith change of scenery 168th 6th to Cleveland for 171 and 203 in 7th
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09-23-2008, 01:06 PM	#22
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	now for the draft according to nfl draft blitzs mock draft 7 rds: 1st rd 12th pick MLB Rey Maualugga from USC: Shores up our mlb for next 8 to 10 yrs 1st rd 28th pick OT Michael OHer from Ole Miss: Falls cause of depth elsewhere 2nd rd 33rd pick OLB Brian Cushing from USC: no more weak linebacking with these 2 2nd rd 44th pick C Antoine Caldwell from Alabama: he's a wrecking crew 2nd rd 48th pick Rb/KR C.J. Spiller from Clemson: not every down back but situational 3rd rd 66th pick OT Phill Loadholt from Oklahoma: big RT what we need falls bc of DUI 4th Rd 103rd pick DE Ian Campbell from KSU: which is him 11.5 sacks or 4.5 potential 5th Rd 129th pick QB Chase Daniel from Missouri: Gritty leader maybe too short wrth it 5th rd 135th pick WR Patrick Turner from USC: big target tremendous potential 5th rd 140th pick CB/KR Bruce Johnson from Miami: great speed better kr 6th rd 171st pick OG Andy Kemp from Wisconsin: Good solid Guard 7th rd 194th pick DE Derek Walker from Illinois: Falls because of work ethic ; steal 7th rd 203rd pick OLB/Mlb Chris Evans from Auburn: Tough and will earn pt on ST ok here you go I think this draft rebuilds the lines and LB core I know lack of a first rd Qb is gonna be major gripe but Im under the assumption this is not a team which can be fixed overnight. Maybe we get lucky with Alex Smith or Chase daniel if not we have a strong OL and we bring in QB in 2010 draft or get a young free agent. Last edited by chiefscafan; 09-23-2008 at 01:11 PM..
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09-23-2008, 01:09 PM	#24
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	some people on here are such a pleasure to communicate with ok if you read I said we would trade our 2nd pick in the draft to Minnesota for there 1rst 2nd and fifth the qb they want is there they will do the trade seeing as they don't need much us on the other hand we need alot.
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09-23-2008, 01:21 PM	#26
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	you know what more people would be willing to communicate on here if jerks like you didn't blast them for putting an opinion up an opinion isn't wrong because you think it is. first of all take off the rose colored glasses this team stinks and we need to get better we traded our best DE what makes you think we won't trade our best two bargaining chips? by the way LJ was offered for Quinn so your talk they won't trade LJ is blown right there Tony Gonzalez is our best chip to play we all love him but know he is on the decline by the time we are any good. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee we aren't good and we need draft picks this is a good draft. Why don't you analyze that instead of bagging on the way we accquired the picks.
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09-23-2008, 01:24 PM	#27
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	I get asked by the moderators why I don't post this is why I love the chiefs and I am disgusted by the display I 've seen so I was currious if It could be fixed in this draft so I tried to. Then I thought it would be fun to post it up here and get some intelligent discussion but I guess that's impossible here.
Posts: 4,425

09-23-2008, 01:33 PM	#29
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Its according to draft blitz's mock I didn't make it up I have no idea why Oher fell that far they said because of the talent that is in the draft. Also that most people grabbed ol last year. I'm sorry if I blasted you I thought it would be fun to try to fix the chiefs. My privilidges for some reason were taken off of this and I can only reply not post anymore. I am disgusted by what I see I just want to see some kind of sign of life from this team. If you are a chief fan you know what I mean I'm sorry I lashed out at you but take away from OHer falling what do you think. I'm worried Carl peterson has roally screwed up this franchise and if he gives himself an extension I may be done being a chief fan for a while. what are your thoughts
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