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Mecca · 02-11-2009, 05:35 AM

Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html

Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall.

“There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.”

Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor.

The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo.

While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs.

“The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are.

“I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.”

Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out.

The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line.

With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down?

Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen.

“I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy.

“He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.”

Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Started 16 games?!

So much for that QB arguement. That dude is way to green for the 3rd pick.

Yea that's the end all be all uh huh

Brock · 02-11-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

If you look closely at the track record in New England, they never really went after big money risky prospects.

They never had to.

**BigRichard** · 02-11-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bootlegged

QB or trade down. Simple.

I have money on trading down.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 08:06 AM

Trading out of 3 is just a piece of cake, where is this magical land you speak of is the road make of cake aswell?

**BigRedChief** · 02-11-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard

I have money on trading down.

And just who trades up that high anymore? It's a pipe dream. Not gonna happen.

CrazyHorse · 02-11-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea that's the end all be all uh huh

It certainly means there is a small enough test sample for concern. You seem to be so ceratin he's (Sanchez) a slam dunk. It's a pretty risky proposition for the 3rd pick over all.

I will conceed however that I struggle to evaluate players the way you do. After 11 games you know everything there is to know about whether Thigpen can learn or play the pro game. Not only that, but now I've learned you have not only evaluated Sanchez after 16 games, but you have come to the conclusion, he can and will succeed at the pro level after only 16 games in college. Yeah, it's a no brainer. We're such fools.

You're special.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 08:14 AM

Because see I've actually sat down and watched all of his games so I don't need to make some stat breakdown to judge him.

Stats are heavily overrated when trying to judge a prospect.

Brock · 02-11-2009, 08:14 AM

We need a quarterback. We're taking a quarterback. Deal with it.

CrazyHorse · 02-11-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Because see I've actually sat down and watched all of his games so I don't need to make some stat breakdown to judge him.

Stats are heavily overrated when trying to judge a prospect.

So has Mayock.

**the Talking Can** · 02-11-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

If you look closely at the track record in New England, they never really went after big money risky prospects.

did they ever have the #3 pick in the draft and no QB?

cause that's what we're talking about...

RUSH · 02-11-2009, 08:19 AM

I'm just waiting for someone to bring up the argument about Pioli's track record when it comes to drafting QB's. The worst argument of them all IMO.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH

I'm just waiting for someone to bring up the argument about Pioli's track record when it comes to drafting QB's. The worst argument of them all IMO.

I bet he learned the Tyler Thigpen lesson after watching Parcells have to deal with Quincy Carter.

Chief Roundup · 02-11-2009, 08:27 AM

Boy oh Boy I can feel the hate coming for Pioli

crazycoffey · 02-11-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Mayock is the best, but even the best make mistakes.

I'd like to see the link to this evaluation before I started taking mecca's word about it. just saying-grain of salt....

Micjones · 02-11-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

It certainly means there is a small enough test sample for concern. You seem to be so ceratin he's (Sanchez) a slam dunk. It's a pretty risky proposition for the 3rd pick over all.

I will conceed however that I struggle to evaluate players the way you do. After 11 games you know everything there is to know about whether Thigpen can learn or play the pro game. Not only that, but now I've learned you have not only evaluated Sanchez after 16 games, but you have come to the conclusion, he can and will succeed at the pro level after only 16 games in college. Yeah, it's a no brainer. We're such fools.

You're special.

*floor*

02-11-2009, 05:35 AM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall. “There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.” Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor. The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs. “The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are. “I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.” Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out. The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line. With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down? Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen. “I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy. “He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.” Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!
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