Can't stop an offense? Make it illegal!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yeah... great lesson for the youngsters. If you can't win by playing within the established rules, then find a loophole and do what you want anyway, regardless of things like tradition, honor, and respect for the game. Yeah, they're just high schoolers... let em cheat and have fun....

Teaching kids that it's OK to take advantage of loopholes in the rules is bad no matter how you try to justify it.

Future members of Congress or Hedge Fund Managers/Wall Street Financiers.

Hell, if these kids are taught how to take advantage of loopholes and screw over things like honor and respect, they'll end up with 11 million dollar end of year bonuses, a Ferrari and a Gulfstream IV.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Future members of Congress or Hedge Fund Managers/Wall Street Financiers.

Hell, if these kids are taught how to take advantage of loopholes and screw over things like honor and respect, they'll end up with 11 million dollar end of year bonuses, a Ferrari and a Gulfstream IV.

Nice. Other people exploit loopholes, so why not teach these kids to do so. The world is full of dickhole cheaters, so why not teach these kids the practice early on so they'll get rich someday cheating other cheaters out of millions.

Bunch of greedy cheating pricks who think it's OK because somebody somewhere got away with it.

[Adept Havelock]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yeah... great lesson for the youngsters. If you can't win by playing within the established rules, then find a loophole and do what you want anyway, regardless of things like tradition, honor, and respect for the game. Yeah, they're just high schoolers... let em cheat and have fun....

The rule is based on an exception they made specifically for scrimmage kicks. Not any kind of formation intended for offense. Scrimmage kicks.

Teaching kids that it's OK to take advantage of loopholes in the rules is bad no matter how you try to justify it.

Superb take,IMO.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

A-11 is just stupid anyway. Good for them. A-11 makes a joke out of football by using silly jersey number exceptions. That isn't football. If you can't play the game the way it was intended and you have to resort to sneaky pass-eligible exceptions, then maybe you shouldn't be playing.

"The way it was intended" is a complete straw man. The way football was originally intended was basically rugby. Then, some coach exploited a "loophole" in the rules by telling his team to execute a forward pass.

That argument is a bunch of revisionist history.

[King_Chief_Fan]

holy hand grenades, we are getting bent out of shape about high school football.....the end is near.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

holy hand grenades, we are getting bent out of shape about high school football.....the end is near.

No... there's just nothing else to do. There are only so many Grey's Anatomy re-runs to watch on the internet, you know...

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

A-11 is just stupid anyway. Good for them. A-11 makes a joke out of football by using silly jersey number exceptions. That isn't football. If you can't play the game the way it was intended and you have to resort to sneaky pass-eligible exceptions, then maybe you shouldn't be playing.

Yeah but if it is a school with zero traditional lineman what are they suppose to do??? Get ran over every game??

Of course, if you have the lineman to play and run this then it is shitty..

I say only let certain schools that do not meet certain criteria of players be allowed to run this..

What is the win/loss record of A-11 teams???

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Yeah but if it is a school with zero traditional lineman what are they suppose to do??? Get ran over every game??

It's rather simple. If you don't have the facilities to properly compete in terms of students, training facilities, money, etc. with the rest of the established league, then don't form a team in that league. If you still want your kids to have a chance to play football, then establish a rec league that adheres to that competition level. But don't expect the rest of an established league to make exceptions to the rules for individual teams that are vastly under-competitive.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

It's rather simple. If you don't have the facilities to properly compete in terms of students, training facilities, money, etc. with the rest of the established league, then don't form a team in that league. If you still want your kids to have a chance to play football, then establish a rec league that adheres to that competition level. But don't expect the rest of an established league to make exceptions to the rules for individual teams that are vastly under-competitive.

So high school teams are now divided by training facilities and money.. Glad to know most parents can just pick up and move their kids to another school that easy...

As for the A-11 after googling, yeah undersized teams were going undefeated to the championships against schools that had bigger rosters and better players all around..

[penchief]

I heard on Sirius the other day how back in the day Marv Levy tried to get the commissioner to rule that Cincinnatti's offense was illegal the morning before their AFC playoff game. The commissioner didn't, the Bengals won and went on to the Super Bowl. The next season the Bills adopted the same offense and it became known as the K-Gun which they used so successfully for so long.

I thought that was an interesting tidbit of NFL lore.

[jidar]

it's a rule loophole and already banned in both college and the pros. No reason to have it really and having kids play in it does them a disservice.

[Ebolapox]

the no fun league strikes again....

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................

[kcfanXIII]

i wonder if thigpen could run this...

[JuicesFlowing]

The defense can't stop the offense from scoring? Sounds like it's the D's problem.

[Mr. Laz]

it's high school, not professional.


i have no problem with them making rules concerning sportsmanship and competitive balance.