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Old 01-16-2010, 11:09 AM  
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Bill Simmons on Tom Brady/Matt Cassel

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The Montreal Screw-Job Award for "Most Shocking Turn on a Beloved Figure"

I didn't call my father during the first half of the Baltimore beating. There was nothing to say. When you give up an 83-yard run to start a game against a team you know wants to run 40 times, you kinda know how it's going to turn out. We all knew the 2009 Patriots had a playoff stink bomb in them; just not in Round 1 at home. Anyway, I was too depressed to call him at halftime. After another Brady interception in the third quarter, my cell phone started vibrating. Yup, it was a text from my dad.

"We never should have traded Cassel."

(Ouch.)
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:53 AM   #16
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Cassel/Brady kinda reminds me of the Montana/Young situation, exept they gave us the younger one this time
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:54 AM   #17
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It just makes me happy as an avid fan of the NFL to see Brady finally looked upon as what he is...

A good QB who played in a great system with all of the right pieces and was the leader of a dynasty...

but not an all-time great.


Define "not an all time great". Does that mean non HOF caliber? Or does it mean not in the top 5 all time discussion?
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:01 PM   #18
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All time great to me would mean top 3-5 of all time. I mean shit even Jim Kelly and Elway are in the hall, and they're nowhere near the top 5
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:02 PM   #19
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Cassel/Brady kinda reminds me of the Montana/Young situation, exept they gave us the younger one this time
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:05 PM   #20
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It just makes me happy as an avid fan of the NFL to see Brady finally looked upon as what he is...

A good QB who played in a great system with all of the right pieces and was the leader of a dynasty...

but not an all-time great.
Yea Brady could never compare to your boy Huard. Christ I really believe that you can't top your level of stupidity but time and time again you prove me wrong. Don't you have an electrical outlet in your house(oh sorry I mean hotel room you rent by the week) you could be licking?
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:13 PM   #21
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Cassel/Brady kinda reminds me of the Young/Bono situation, except they gave us the less talented one this time
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:19 PM   #22
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Simmons also said he has an inside source that Moss is gone.
One thing I've noticed and find quite interesting are when teams have these cancer type players like R.Moss, Owens, LJ, or a guy like Mike Vick for example and never win anything.

It's got to be some sort of bad omen when these guys come to play for good teams and then those team just don't accomplish anything.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:20 PM   #23
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All time great to me would mean top 3-5 of all time. I mean shit even Jim Kelly and Elway are in the hall, and they're nowhere near the top 5
Elway not top 5? You are about as ****ing stupid as Hootie and CoMo.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:27 PM   #27
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One thing I've noticed and find quite interesting are when teams have these cancer type players like R.Moss, Owens, LJ, or a guy like Mike Vick for example and never win anything.

It's got to be some sort of bad omen when these guys come to play for good teams and then those team just don't accomplish anything.
Well in Moss' defense he did set a record for TD's while his team was going undefeated in the regular season. Not to mention he has been a perfect citizen while he has been in NE. I know alot of people want to say Moss is the problem in NE but the fact is their defense has dropped off a cliff in the past year and a half.
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One thing I've noticed and find quite interesting are when teams have these cancer type players like R.Moss, Owens, LJ, or a guy like Mike Vick for example and never win anything.

It's got to be some sort of bad omen when these guys come to play for good teams and then those team just don't accomplish anything.
Yeah, Moss only caught the TD pass from Brady to put the Patriots ahead in the SB with 2 minutes to play before the defense coughed it up. You are blaming Moss for the Patriots not going 19-0 that year?

I also love all this revisionist history. After 2007 Brady was being called one of the top 2 of all time after his 50 TD passes. He get a knee injury and now he's not even on the top 5 or 10. Sure, today he may not be. But it doesn't take away where he was 2 years ago.
And I love how Kurt Warner is suddenly clutch with his 9 playoff wins and Brady isn't with his 14. Talk about "what have you done for me lately?"
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Simmons also said he has an inside source that Moss is gone.
And his obvious landing place IS.........
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