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Old 12-19-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:04 AM   #2
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Shockey's flag tattoo offends me (not really, but there are some who would say that it's not appropriately respectful of the flag).
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #3
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Shockey's flag tattoo offends me (not really, but there are some who would say that it's not appropriately respectful of the flag).
According to the "official" rules, his tatoo is wholly inappropriate.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:12 AM   #4
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According to the "official" rules, his tatoo is wholly inappropriate.
Ironically, I'm doing a lesson on flag protocol with our cub scout den this evening, so I spent a bit this morning researching it online. I didn't actually find an official policy on tattoos, but the flag is not supposed to be on clothing.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:16 AM   #5
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Ironically, I'm doing a lesson on flag protocol with our cub scout den this evening, so I spent a bit this morning researching it online. I didn't actually find an official policy on tattoos, but the flag is not supposed to be on clothing.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #6
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Good point.
The flag code specifically prohibits the use of flags on costumes or uniforms, EXCEPT those of police and fire officers and the military.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:25 AM   #7
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Good point.
That's a uniform, not a piece of clothing.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #8
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Ironically, I'm doing a lesson on flag protocol with our cub scout den this evening, so I spent a bit this morning researching it online. I didn't actually find an official policy on tattoos, but the flag is not supposed to be on clothing.
Some would probably argue against, but the flag is not to be worn as decoration or as part of a "costume" - a person's skin really isn't any different than a T-shirt in that sense.

It's ironic that displaying the flag in a horizontal fashion, the way they do with the massive flags at football games, is also contrary to the Flag code.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:16 AM   #9
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Two things about this:

1) The Players are representatives of their teams and if the team mandates this kind of thing, fine.

2) If you don't want to put your hand of your heart, I don't see a problem with that. Isn't that why America is so great, the whole "feedom" thing that we lose more of everyday?
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I've found the more people care about symbolism, the more they are dumbasses.
Thank Goodness you learned long ago that symbolism has no place in literature, religion, philosophy or human history. You are indeed a wise and profound illuminati.

I bet your Che t-shirt waves proudly in the breeze...
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Symbolism is everywhere in many forms. And there is nothing wrong with it. I've found the less someone cares about anything the less I care if they exist. Or since MLK said it best, "A man who hasn't found something he is willing to die for is not fit to live".

Symbolism to the protocol and respect of our flag is nothing more than respect in this country, and all the men and women who have died defending it. I disagree whole heartily to the "totality of freedom" America has been turning into.

If you say you don't have to pay respect to the flag, like in this case, everyone jumps to their defense as having the freedom of speech to do it. However, Shockey's words of disagreement somehow isn't freedom of speech. I don't get it....
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Symbolism is everywhere in many forms. And there is nothing wrong with it. I've found the less someone cares about anything the less I care if they exist. Or since MLK said it best, "A man who hasn't found something he is willing to die for is not fit to live".

Symbolism to the protocol and respect of our flag is nothing more than respect in this country, and all the men and women who have died defending it. I disagree whole heartily to the "totality of freedom" America has been turning into.

If you say you don't have to pay respect to the flag, like in this case, everyone jumps to their defense as having the freedom of speech to do it. However, Shockey's words of disagreement somehow isn't freedom of speech. I don't get it....
Yep. Dumbass confirmed.
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