Football QB's postseason success - Page 2

**jjchieffan** · 02-09-2014, 07:30 PM

This past year, I have had so many discussions with people seeing Paydaytons numbers in the regular season and calling him the GOAT. I even deal with this from my dad. I prefer to call him Schottenmanning because he just can't get it done in the postseason. Here are some notable postseason records for comparison

Brady 18-8 3 Rings
Roethlisberger 10-4 2 Rings
Wilson 4-1 1 Ring
Brees 6-5 1 Ring
Rodgers 5-4 1 Ring
Flacco 9-4 1 Ring
Eli 8-3 2 Rings
Mr overrated 11-12 1 Ring
McNabb 9-7 0 Rings
Favre 13-11 1 Ring
Bradshaw 14-5 4 Rings
Montana 16-7 4 Rings
S Young 8-6 1 Ring
Aikman 11-4 3 Rings
Elway 14-7 2 Rings
Staubach 11-6 2 Rings
Johnny U 6-2 1 Ring
Bart Starr 9-1 2 Rings
Plunkett 8-2 2 Rings
Stabler 7-5 1 Ring
Dawson 5-3 1 Ring
Simms 6-4 1 Ring

21 QB's that unlike Manning, have a winning record in the postseason. All but McNabb have at least one ring like him.7 have at least 11 wins, but all of them have fewer losses. Look at Brady. Towering over even Montana with his 18-8 record. People try to call Paydayton the greatest ever. But shouldn't the greatest ever have a winning record in the postseason? Manning isn't even the greatest active player. That clearly goes to Brady. He even owns Manning in head to head matchups. Is he HOF? Absolutely. Top 10 ever? Yes. Top 5? Maybe. But certainly not number one. Not with that postseason record. I would rank him below Manning, Elway, Unitas, Brady for sure. So that is 5 at best. Just curious where the rest of you rank him?

milkman · 02-09-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

It is funny that he's being torn apart after dragging that defense and that running game to the Super Bowl.

The AFC is a weak conference right now, so he really didn't drag that team to the SB.

O.city · 02-09-2014, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

No it's not. Look at the list those with the best records are the usual suspects in the GOAT argument.

Qbs can win games by simply staying out of the way, and lose by playing a perfect game.

**RealSNR** · 02-09-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Based on those numbers, Terry Bradshaw is the greatest QB in NFL history.

Bart Starr should be considered as well

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Qbs can win games by simply staying out of the way, and lose by playing a perfect game.

I think "staying away" is the wrong word to use. I don't think a conservative approach or "game management" (I hate the way that term is used) where the QB is going three and out all the time is going to work... especially in the playoffs.

But if a QB manages the game by moving the sticks consistently, setting up good field position, and turning it on in the 4th when the game is really on the line... I like that type of QB a lot better than a QB who can put up a lot of points early.

It's what enfuriates me about people knocking on really good game managers and also commenting on how guys like Eli and Flacco are a product of their supporting cast.

Discuss Thrower · 02-09-2014, 10:51 PM

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MagicHef · 02-09-2014, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Most playoff losses by a quarterback in NFL HISTORY.

Most playoff berths by a quarterback in NFL HISTORY.

MagicHef · 02-09-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The AFC is a weak conference right now, so he really didn't drag that team to the SB.

There were 11 teams in the AFC with better scoring defenses.

There were 7 teams in the AFC with better run games.

Why did Denver win the Lamar Hunt trophy?

GloucesterChief · 02-09-2014, 11:03 PM

As far as regular season goes. I still say Marino is the best. Give Marino todays rules and I bet he would have at least one 65+ TD season.

His playoff record is not so great as well being 8-10.

**Easy 6** · 02-09-2014, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

It is funny that he's being torn apart after dragging that defense and that running game to the Super Bowl.

I seem to remember you not being quite so down on your defense and run game earlier this year.

Just Passin' By · 02-09-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Most playoff berths by a quarterback in NFL HISTORY.

And check out the number of one-and-dones he's got to go with that.

RippedmyFlesh · 02-10-2014, 01:44 AM

Top 5 at best for 5head. I put Unitas,Starr,Montana,Brady ahead of him. He is in next group with Farve and Marino.

02-09-2014, 07:30 PM
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $-167752	QB's postseason success This past year, I have had so many discussions with people seeing Paydaytons numbers in the regular season and calling him the GOAT. I even deal with this from my dad. I prefer to call him Schottenmanning because he just can't get it done in the postseason. Here are some notable postseason records for comparison Brady 18-8 3 Rings Roethlisberger 10-4 2 Rings Wilson 4-1 1 Ring Brees 6-5 1 Ring Rodgers 5-4 1 Ring Flacco 9-4 1 Ring Eli 8-3 2 Rings Mr overrated 11-12 1 Ring McNabb 9-7 0 Rings Favre 13-11 1 Ring Bradshaw 14-5 4 Rings Montana 16-7 4 Rings S Young 8-6 1 Ring Aikman 11-4 3 Rings Elway 14-7 2 Rings Staubach 11-6 2 Rings Johnny U 6-2 1 Ring Bart Starr 9-1 2 Rings Plunkett 8-2 2 Rings Stabler 7-5 1 Ring Dawson 5-3 1 Ring Simms 6-4 1 Ring 21 QB's that unlike Manning, have a winning record in the postseason. All but McNabb have at least one ring like him.7 have at least 11 wins, but all of them have fewer losses. Look at Brady. Towering over even Montana with his 18-8 record. People try to call Paydayton the greatest ever. But shouldn't the greatest ever have a winning record in the postseason? Manning isn't even the greatest active player. That clearly goes to Brady. He even owns Manning in head to head matchups. Is he HOF? Absolutely. Top 10 ever? Yes. Top 5? Maybe. But certainly not number one. Not with that postseason record. I would rank him below Manning, Elway, Unitas, Brady for sure. So that is 5 at best. Just curious where the rest of you rank him?
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	Top 5 at best for 5head. I put Unitas,Starr,Montana,Brady ahead of him. He is in next group with Farve and Marino.
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