Chiefs Chiefs Offseason Planet Evaluation: Albert Wilson - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 01-14-2018, 11:38 AM

This will be one of the more interesting evaluations. Tell me what you think about Albert Wilson.

Poll coming faster than a Chiefs exit from the playoffs.

Albert appeared in 13 games and started 7.
He recorded 42 receptions for 554 yards (13.2 ypc) and 3 TD. 0 fumbles.

He added 3 rushes for 6 yards as well.

saphojunkie · 01-14-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Personally, I think the 10 catches on 10 targets for 147 yards in week 17 say more about what Mahomes' value to the team is going forward vs all of his other stats for the year combined do.

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**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 12:27 PM

I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.

TLO · 01-14-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.

This is a solid assessment

KChiefs1 · 01-14-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.

Agreed

carcosa · 01-14-2018, 02:26 PM

He's a good 3/4 guy. Would love to either pick up a strong WR2 to complement Hill... but with Mahomes maybe that will be Robinson. But regardless, Wilson is an ideal WR depth guy when he's healthy. Good for a few drive extending plays per game & takes pressure off the stars.

DRM08 · 01-14-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Personally, I think the 10 catches on 10 targets for 147 yards in week 17 say more about what Wilson's value to the team is going forward vs all of his other stats for the year combined do.

They need to keep him around. He has legit chemistry with Mahomes, which could be very important in 2018 for the young QB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

He's a good 3/4 guy. Would love to either pick up a strong WR2 to complement Hill... but with Mahomes maybe that will be Robinson. But regardless, Wilson is an ideal WR depth guy when he's healthy. Good for a few drive extending plays per game & takes pressure off the stars.

Conley smokes Robinson

carcosa · 01-14-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

They need to keep him around. He has legit chemistry with Mahomes, which could be very important in 2018 for the young QB.

Under Mahomes, Hill/Conley/Robinson/Wilson could become one of the best WR units in the NFL

carcosa · 01-14-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Conley smokes Robinson

I like Conley but Robinson seems more talented..,

hitchief · 01-14-2018, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Elevated his status from a C player to a B.

Probably can't afford him going forward but I think he'd be worth it.

Cant afford to keep him is correct but then again he's an Andy butt kisser so theres that.

He will always drop/short arm the ball if there is any doubt of imminent contact is concerned. He will always protect himself over making a play no matter the situation, just like on the last play of the playoff game.

He will disappoint you in the coming year/s now that its Pat's team and not all Alex's fault. Be very aware!

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

I like Conley but Robinson seems more talented..,

He’s less dependable, rounds off his routes and has issues catching the ball.

He’s also smaller than Conley.

Direckshun · 01-14-2018, 02:39 PM

You can’t let a guy walk who has insane chemistry with your QBotF.

We’ve got a defense to build. Let’s bring Wilson back and focus 100% on the D.

NJChiefsFan · 01-14-2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You can’t let a guy walk who has insane chemistry with your QBotF.

We’ve got a defense to build. Let’s bring Wilson back and focus 100% on the D.

What if a team offers him $5-6 million a year?

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What if a team offers him $5-6 million a year?

That’s not gonna happen.

Wilson isn’t a 800-1,000 yard receiver waiting to happen.

He’s a smallish 4th or 5th option on a good team and a 3rd or 4th option on a bad team.

He isn’t suddenly going to become Emmanuel Sanders or Muhammad Sanu.

NJChiefsFan · 01-14-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That’s not gonna happen.

Wilson isn’t a 800-1,000 yard receiver waiting to happen.

He’s a smallish 4th or 5th option on a good team and a 3rd or 4th option on a bad team.

He isn’t suddenly going to become Emmanuel Sanders or Muhammad Sanu.

My point was some of what decides whether he comes back is what he gets offered.

View Poll Results: Albert Wilson's Grade Card
Part 1: Grade for the 2017 Season	2	2.63%
A+	0	0%
A	4	5.26%
A-	9	11.84%
B+	21	27.63%
B	22	28.95%
B-	10	13.16%
C+	5	6.58%
C	1	1.32%
C-	0	0%
D+	0	0%
D	1	1.32%
D-	1	1.32%
F	0	0%
No grade	1	1.32%
Part 2: 2017 Performance Relative to Expectations	3	3.95%
Greatly exceeded my expectations	25	32.89%
Slightly exceeded my expectations	38	50.00%
Performed about like I expected	8	10.53%
Performed slightly worse than my expectations	1	1.32%
Performed far short of my expectations	0	0%
Part 3: Desired Role for 2018	3	3.95%
Much larger	6	7.89%
Slightly larger	24	31.58%
About the same as 2017	35	46.05%
Slightly smaller	2	2.63%
Much smaller	1	1.32%
Off the team	1	1.32%
Part 4: I think this player’s ability is …	3	3.95%
Ascending	48	63.16%
Stable	20	26.32%
Descending	1	1.32%
Part 5: The minimum I would trade this player for is a mid- …	3	3.95%
-sized bottle of Pibb Extra	2	2.63%
7th round pick	1	1.32%
6th round pick	6	7.89%
5th round pick	20	26.32%
4th round pick	18	23.68%
3rd round pick	18	23.68%
2nd round pick	3	3.95%
1st round pick	1	1.32%
A pair of 1st round picks	1	1.32%
I would not trade this player	5	6.58%
Part 6: I prefer…	2	2.63%
Cumulonimbus	34	44.74%
Cirrostratus	11	14.47%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2018, 11:38 AM
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01-14-2018, 12:27 PM	#17
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I gave him a B- or 80%. Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear. With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal. There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past. Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.
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01-14-2018, 02:26 PM	#20
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $-896305	He's a good 3/4 guy. Would love to either pick up a strong WR2 to complement Hill... but with Mahomes maybe that will be Robinson. But regardless, Wilson is an ideal WR depth guy when he's healthy. Good for a few drive extending plays per game & takes pressure off the stars.
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01-14-2018, 02:39 PM	#27
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	You can’t let a guy walk who has insane chemistry with your QBotF. We’ve got a defense to build. Let’s bring Wilson back and focus 100% on the D.
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