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Old 02-13-2025, 11:13 AM   #1
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Chiefs: Lose their first playoff game in 3 years.

Everybody: They should obviously change everything they do, it's clearly not working.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:15 AM   #2
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Chiefs: Lose their first playoff game in 3 years.

Everybody: They should obviously change everything they do, it's clearly not working.
Being explosive on offense has been talked about forever, about 75% of it not being explosive this year is injuries though so it's not like they need completely new personnel.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:19 AM   #3
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Being explosive on offense has been talked about forever, about 75% of it not being explosive this year is injuries though so it's not like they need completely new personnel.
Personnel upgrades at LT and RB, yes.

Injuries to WR obviously impacted that part of the explosiveness equation… although would the Chiefs have been able to maximize the potential of their WR group even if Rice and Hollywood were healthy for the duration of the season?

Doubtful given the LT situation.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:16 AM   #4
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Chiefs: Lose their first playoff game in 3 years.

Everybody: They should obviously change everything they do, it's clearly not working.
Yeah I hope people didn't pay for this article. Obvious shit is obvious.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:14 AM   #5
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It needs to go two ways. Veach tried to give him his speed guys. But mahomes needs to prove he can consistently hit it, and Reid needs to trust him to hit it, and sometimes you see these guys go back and force between trust and distrust.

Then on top of that… Hollywoods injury to me was a huge blow to getting mahomes back on track. And then the struggles on the OL definitely didn’t help. Of course losing rashee hurt us but early in the season we saw Mahomes kind of tunnel vision on to him for short catch and run.

We need the right personnel consistently long enough for Mahomes to make mistakes. And we need the patience to make mistakes so he can get better. And i feel like we’ve been missing those ingredients
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:16 AM   #6
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It needs to go two ways. Veach tried to give him his speed guys. But mahomes needs to prove he can consistently hit it, and Reid needs to trust him to hit it, and sometimes you see these guys go back and force between trust and distrust.

Then on top of that… Hollywoods injury to me was a huge blow to getting mahomes back on track. And then the struggles on the OL definitely didn’t help. Of course losing rashee hurt us but early in the season we saw Mahomes kind of tunnel vision on to him for short catch and run.

We need the right personnel consistently long enough for Mahomes to make mistakes. And we need the patience to make mistakes so he can get better. And i feel like we’ve been missing those ingredients
That also doesn't factor 2 of the guys with lots of touches Kelce and Hunt aren't explosive in this stage of their careers.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:37 AM   #7
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That also doesn't factor 2 of the guys with lots of touches Kelce and Hunt aren't explosive in this stage of their careers.
Yeah but interchange kelce and rice, because when rice was there he was a target monster and kelce wasn’t touching the ball (all the more reason I feel like kelces negative impact is a little overstated. If rice is on the field, kelce becomes more of a role player).

Rice is very explosive. But we’ve mostly used him as an efficient target monster with explosiveness after the catch. We haven’t unlocked nearly enough the explosiveness before the catch. So even with rashee in place of kelce and Pacheco in place of hunt, our mentality didn’t really change.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:17 AM   #8
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The only part of the team that has consistently sucked ass throughout the Mahomes era is the OL.

All the WRs in the world won't help if Mahomes isn't upright.
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Old 02-13-2025, 02:12 PM   #9
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If you look at the deep routes our WRs were running on Sunday it seems that the game plan was to be explosive and get huge chunk plays. Can't do that when your QB is getting pressured on every play and there's 7 defenders in the backfield though!
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:22 AM   #11
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If you look at the deep routes our WRs were running on Sunday it seems that the game plan was to be explosive and get huge chunk plays. Can't do that you when your QB is getting pressured on every play and there's 7 defenders in the backfield though!
Yeah offensive line is a major concern, basically every position except Thuney when he moves back to LG, and Creed, and Thuney IS getting older. RT, RG, and definitely LT all need to be addressed in some way. Trey Smith had a a terrible year, and Jawaan Taylor is below average.
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I love Andy Reid, he has brought winning football to KC in a way that was almost unimaginable 15 years ago, however his gameplans have become stale and these razor thin margins of victory are not sustainable. He needs to rebuild the offensive gameplan and we need utilize the run more, play action, and down the field throws. The side to side stuff has a place definitely and is a winning system, but it has become TOO west coast dink and dunk and defenses with their speed are all over it. With Mahomes PPG should always be 30+ until his tires fall off due to age.
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When you have defenses coming out and saying "we wanted to keep the QB in the pocket and make him play QB".....well......
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When you have defenses coming out and saying "we wanted to keep the QB in the pocket and make him play QB".....well......
Because they know the Oline won’t hold up if Mahomes is contained in the pocket. If you’re insinuating anything else then that’s on you for not paying attention to Mahomes’s play since day 1.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:22 AM   #15
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Like I said in the draft forum -- if there's a TE and a WR of similar pedigree/potential on the board, I'm taking the WR.

The comparison I made was Colston Loveland vs. Emeka Egbuka. Presuming for the sake of argument that you find both guys to be similarly 'graded' prospects, if I had my choice of either, I'm taking the WR.

Reid's entire career he has shown the ability to get yardage out of his TE. If Kelce walks, we'll still get 800+ yards out of the TE position as a whole.

In the meantime, I'd like to see us move more towards a WR oriented offense with a RB that's more capable of breaking longer runs and/or doing more damage in the screen/passing game.

I agree completely with the thesis of the article. Ultimately we've gotten the job done with plodding weapons and minimizing mistakes, but we're underutilizing our most valuable (and expensive) asset in so doing.
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