WE ARE NOT THE PATRIOTS!!! STOP SAYING THAT! - Page 2

**dirk digler** · 09-19-2004, 06:05 PM

If I hear one more person or player say that "well New England went 0-2 season and won the Super Bowl" I am going to EXPLODE!!

Ugly Duck · 09-19-2004, 06:32 PM

Not to worry, Chieftains. Both the Patriots and the Chargers started off at 0-2. I predict your fate will fall somewhere in between that of those two.

**dirk digler** · 09-19-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, but much like the Panthers, the Pats are another good example of drafting well on the defensive side of the football. I mean, philosophically speaking, the Chiefs are not that far off from doing the exact same things the Pats and Panthers have done... in terms of philosophy it's very similiar. The difference is we have not done it well, we haven't drafted well, we haven't coached well, we haven't gameplanned well. You look at the Pats and Panthers and they are perfect models of what we want to do defensively. The Panthers drafted 9 of the 11 defensive starters you saw today... the Pats drafted McGinest, Law, Seymour, Bruschi, Ty Warren, Eugene Wilson, Asante Samuel... what do the Chiefs have to show for the numerous defense draft picks we've made? Fujita? Sims? Wesley? Hicks?....

What I was trying to say is that I hear players and fans alike trying to rationalize their performance by saying that well since the Patriots went 0-2 and won the SB then we will do it. That is totally BS and unrational. 2 totally different teams coached and managed very differently. You are right in that we haven't drafted well but the Patriots have and they have made the "right" FA signings for minimal money.
I think our biggest problem is the player personnel department and being able to recongize talent on both sides of the ball. We have failed miserably in that department.

KCWolfman · 09-19-2004, 07:03 PM

2 teams have won the Superbowl after going 0-2. NE added Tom Brady and Dallas added Emmit Smith, unless we get a killer defensive player, I just don't see it happening.

David. · 09-19-2004, 07:19 PM

well New England went 0-2 season and won the Super Bowl

Ugly Duck · 09-19-2004, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

No shit. We are the 3rd highest in the league in average ticket prices.

Is that speculation or fact?

**dirk digler** · 09-19-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Is that speculation or fact?

Fact. There was an article in the Star not too long ago about it. The Patriots are 1st, Redskins 2nd and the Chiefs 3rd. Buffalo is last.

Ugly Duck · 09-19-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fact. There was an article in the Star not too long ago about it. The Patriots are 1st, Redskins 2nd and the Chiefs 3rd. Buffalo is last.

Heavy duty! I'm surprised... the cheapest ticket in Oaktown is $59.... I figured that'd be way up near the top!

BigOlChiefsfan · 09-19-2004, 08:03 PM

So THIS is how it feels to have someone question our Patriot-ism? Might as well question our collective Bronco-ism, Charger-ism and Raider-ism while we're about it.

KCWolfman · 09-19-2004, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fact. There was an article in the Star not too long ago about it. The Patriots are 1st, Redskins 2nd and the Chiefs 3rd. Buffalo is last.

They were wrong. I just checked ticketmaster and saw the NYG games are 85.00 for upper level, Tampa Bay is 68.00, Oakland is 69.00.

NE can be had as cheap as 49.00 for upper level, which is less than the Chiefs upper level.

And that is only a random sampling.

**dirk digler** · 09-19-2004, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

They were wrong. I just checked ticketmaster and saw the NYG games are 85.00 for upper level, Tampa Bay is 68.00, Oakland is 69.00.

NE can be had as cheap as 49.00 for upper level, which is less than the Chiefs upper level.

And that is only a random sampling.

I don't know I tried to find the article with no luck. They were talking about average ticket prices or something like that.

Chiefs Ticket Prices

Club Level $80
Field Box $73
Upper Box $68
Field Reserve $63
Upper Reserve $59

KCWolfman · 09-19-2004, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't know I tried to find the article with no luck. They were talking about average ticket prices or something like that.

Chiefs Ticket Prices

Club Level $80
Field Box $73
Upper Box $68
Field Reserve $63
Upper Reserve $59

I still think they are way off base. Club level seats at all of the stadiums I listed were at 300.00 or more

tk13 · 09-19-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Is that speculation or fact?

That's fact... Lamar actually supposedly wrote a letter to Carl complaining about it. We'll see what happens. Some people want to spend money and says they'd rather have a guy like Dan Snyder that goes gets FA's.... the only way that would ever happen is if the club makes more money on gameday...

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-19-2004, 08:42 PM

I HAVE A DREAM, BITCH!!!

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-19-2004, 08:44 PM

The Pats didn't raise their ticket prices and they won the Super Bowl.

The Chiefs, once again, choke in the playoffs and they raise theirs? That's a bunch of crap.

tk13 · 09-19-2004, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Special Ed

The Pats didn't raise their ticket prices and they won the Super Bowl.

The Chiefs, once again, choke in the playoffs and they raise theirs? That's a bunch of crap.

The first time the Pats won the Super Bowl, their average ticket price went from $47 to $76... a 60% increase. They've led the league in ticket prices by a good margin over the last three years....

09-19-2004, 06:05 PM
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09-19-2004, 06:32 PM	#16
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	Not to worry, Chieftains. Both the Patriots and the Chargers started off at 0-2. I predict your fate will fall somewhere in between that of those two.
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KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	2 teams have won the Superbowl after going 0-2. NE added Tom Brady and Dallas added Emmit Smith, unless we get a killer defensive player, I just don't see it happening.
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BigOlChiefsfan Certified Bourbon taster Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Shawnee KS Casino cash: $6380157	So THIS is how it feels to have someone question our Patriot-ism? Might as well question our collective Bronco-ism, Charger-ism and Raider-ism while we're about it. __________________ A man can never own too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition. -- R. Kipling
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09-19-2004, 08:44 PM	#29
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6868717	The Pats didn't raise their ticket prices and they won the Super Bowl. The Chiefs, once again, choke in the playoffs and they raise theirs? That's a bunch of crap. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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