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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:17 PM   #3046
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Maybe they’ve done all the money moving and it just hasn’t reported yet?
They’re still over the cap and must be under by the 17th so I expect Patrick’s restructure to be announced tomorrow
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:20 PM   #3047
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I mean do we really think they’re gonna trot out something talent wise on the ol like they did in the sb?

There’s just no damn way
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:20 PM   #3048
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They’re still over the cap and must be under by the 17th so I expect Patrick’s restructure to be announced tomorrow
No sir we are under by $12 Million.
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:29 PM   #3049
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Maybe they’ve done all the money moving and it just hasn’t reported yet?
They will make/report moves as they need them. Veach did this last year. As many free-agent plans as the Chiefs may have, remember the players do have the right to say no. If there’s a deal to be struck, the brass will make the necessary cap moves to accommodate.
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:37 PM   #3050
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They will make/report moves as they need them. Veach did this last year. As many free-agent plans as the Chiefs may have, remember the players do have the right to say no. If there’s a deal to be struck, the brass will make the necessary cap moves to accommodate.
maybe it's all a part of the poker hand.

Don't let 'em know exactly what you've got.
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:57 PM   #3051
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I fully expect Veach rn is talking to honey Badger and his agent. Hell Veach does t sleep, wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow they announce a Honey Badger extension
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maybe it's all a part of the poker hand.

Don't let 'em know exactly what you've got.
What sense does that make?
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Old 03-14-2021, 07:09 PM   #3053
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What sense does that make?
“The Chiefs don’t have the money to go after Trent Williams.”

Veach restructures a contract and signs Trent Williams.

Surprised Pikachu face.
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Old 03-14-2021, 07:13 PM   #3054
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What sense does that make?

Negotiating power. Easier to negotiate deals when the agent can’t say “you have X of cap space.”
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“The Chiefs don’t have the money to go after Trent Williams.”

Veach restructures a contract and signs Trent Williams.

Surprised Pikachu face.
Yeah but who are they playing poker with in that analogy?

It just seems Veach will restructure contracts as he goes/when he needs to and doesn't want to do a bunch all at once unnecessarily.
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Negotiating power. Easier to negotiate deals when the agent can’t say “you have X of cap space.”
Do you think agents are dumb or something and don't know which contracts can and should be restructured?

If someone like Williams is interested in playing with the Chiefs, his agent already knows what moves the chiefs need to make to sign him. And on top of that, he's already talked to people, maybe even Veach himself to make sure the numbers will be right.
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Old 03-14-2021, 07:42 PM   #3057
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Do you think agents are dumb or something and don't know which contracts can and should be restructured?

If someone like Williams is interested in playing with the Chiefs, his agent already knows what moves the chiefs need to make to sign him. And on top of that, he's already talked to people, maybe even Veach himself to make sure the numbers will be right.
they absolutely know what contracts we CAN restructure, but can only speculate what contracts we WANT to restructure. They don't know what our plans are for 2021, let alone '22 or '23. They don't know who is in the future plans and who's not.

Knowing what the team has to spend and is WILLING to spend gives the agent ammunition.

Not knowing leaves it a guessing game.

You've never played poker I see.
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they absolutely know what contracts we CAN restructure, but can only speculate what contracts we WANT to restructure. They don't know what our plans are for 2021, let alone '22 or '23. They don't know who is in the future plans and who's not.

Knowing what the team has to spend and is WILLING to spend gives the agent ammunition.

Not knowing leaves it a guessing game.

You've never played poker I see.
Wed stand to lose more than gain in this scenario. The player could just be like, welp ok, I'll just go to the team that's willing to sign me for what I want/what's reasonable rather than the team that won't restructure obvious contracts to afford me. There's basically no plus side to doing this as a poker move. Any agent would be able to see right through the BS.
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Free agency > The draft IMO. I can't wait.
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