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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:04 PM   #3286
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500 of his 1,100 yards came in 3 games.

He was good, but not as good as you’re making him out to be.
Taylor was on my FFB team last year, he wasn't that good.
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:05 PM   #3287
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Taylor was on my FFB team last year, he wasn't that good.
Yea, he had some great games, but he wasn’t a guy that was great week in and week out.

The difference in the OL’s is huge too.
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:06 PM   #3288
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Yeah, he looked fine.

I'd like to see a little more. Hopefully.
Only thing I notice is that sometimes it looks like he doesn't see the hole or sees it too late. Saw it last year and on Saturday, he had space on his 2nd run but I guess he didn't see it?
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:08 PM   #3289
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**** all that noise. In a do over with 20/20 hindsight I'm giving every team above pick #22 a call and taking the cheapest trade for Justin Jefferson.
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:08 PM   #3290
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Taylor didn't fumble a lot though and was great in the passing game. That narrative I pushed around a lot as well.





It's okay to admit he's better. He is.
You realize you are on the side of Ubeja Vintell. You do realize that right?

So no he isn't better.
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:09 PM   #3291
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Only thing I notice is that sometimes it looks like he doesn't see the hole or sees it too late. Saw it last year and on Saturday, he had space on his 2nd run but I guess he didn't see it?
Didn't mean to downvote you on that one. Good video.
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500 of his 1,100 yards came in 3 games.

He was good, but not as good as you’re making him out to be.
Uh.... Might want to check CEHs stats before you go into making that seem like a negative.

47% of CEHs yards came from 3 games
43% of Taylor's yards came from 3 games
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Would you say that Jonathan Taylor has world class speed?
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Only thing I notice is that sometimes it looks like he doesn't see the hole or sees it too late. Saw it last year and on Saturday, he had space on his 2nd run but I guess he didn't see it?
I think he didn't bounce that outside because the DE/DT had outside leverage on his blocker that he coulda easily shed, so CEH kicked back inside to follow behind the block. That's my guess at least.

CEH may not have the speed to elude that DE like that, while J. Charles probably houses it.
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What I don't see is a guy benefitting from a great line. Dude is a beast.

And the assumption that he's going to be injured, after CEH did get injured, is a big one.

I don't give a rat's ass what Ubeja Vintell thinks, use your eyeballs
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:12 PM   #3296
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What I don't see is a guy benefitting from a great line. Dude is a beast.

And the assumption that he's going to be injured, after CEH did get injured, is a big one.

I don't give a rat's ass what Ubeja Vintell thinks, use your eyeballs
You don’t think that Taylor had an advantage with his OL in comparison to the one CEH had?

That’s just ****ing reeruned.
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This is a stupid ****ing conversation.

It's been one ****ing season. If that's the clear decider in determining player worth, then I guess the Chiefs ****ed up in 2017 and should have drafted Deshaun Watson, eh?

And besides that, the Chiefs made the move they did knowing what they knew back then. CEH wasn't some Breeland Speaks whiff by Veach, where everybody was like, "uhh... what?" when the pick happened. Some really smart football peoples' instant reaction to that pick was that of, "Holy shit, the Chiefs just entered God Mode now." Remember Brett Kollman when the pick happened? He wasn't going to react that way if the Chiefs took Jonathan Taylor instead. It was all a reaction to the specific player the Chiefs took, not the position they chose.

Veach had a plan with the way the team would use CEH and we're going to get a much better glimpse of that possibility this season. And for all we know, it might make Jonathan Taylor look like Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

It was the 32nd overall freakin pick. How about we all just grab our own dicks and wait a goddamn minute?

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I think CEH is going to be a lot better this season with an improved line. I've said it all offseason.

What's reeruned is ignoring Jonathan Taylor's actual tape because you don't want to admit he is better than we thought he'd be, which he is. Especially in the passing game.

Look I hate the Colts but I'm not going to ignore the evidence to prop my guy up. It's plain as day that the guy has it.
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The Colts were 8th in run block win rate.

The Chiefs were 31st.

Tell me again how the difference in OL’s doesn’t matter.
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