***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Then why did you call the governor of Michigan a Nazi?

I said I feel bad for the people that live there. She has taken very extreme measures compared to almost every other state. I would question her motives at this point, but that's not for this thread.

I know how it effected a lot of people in Missouri and I know how thrilled they are to be back in a gym, back to school working out with the football team, back to having baseball practices and games coming up shortly. If those things were pushed back 2 more months the depression, despair and morale of a lot of people would be very bad. I truly feel bad for those people and the people of CA.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Are you prevented from leaving your house for 15 minutes a day a few times a week to get some sunshine?

So that's all it takes? 15 minutes to insure our immune systems are at peak efficiency? Not being glib, I'm legitimately asking.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It’s irrelevant.

We don’t go around blaming people for contributing to the spread of the flu or anything else that’s contagious for simply living their lives and not hiding inside. We don’t say everybody that has unprotected sex is a murdering asshole that’s possibly spreading AIDS.

You people are ****ing ridiculous.

During the start of the AIDS epidemic they said that and worse. How many people to this day still think AIDS is a homosexual only disease? I bet alot.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Stop trying to flip this around. The CoronaVirus isn't Aids. It's a unique virus that is extremely contagious. Just because your Grandparents didn't die from it doesnt mean it hasn't killed others

You all move goalposts like nobody I’ve ever seen.

News flash:

Corona isn’t car accidents either. They’ve killed way more people and will continue to kill way more people than Corona ever will.

Stop driving or shut the **** up you condescending moron.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Not going to argue that.

But in the case of what I asked, how bad will the flu season be in fall/winter of '20 with other ailments not C-19 when our immune systems are potentially weakened from distancing? Pretty bad I would imagine, and I'm afraid all the doom and gloomers will use it for their own reasons to harp about C-19 and further lockdown and distancing policies (worse case scenario admittedly, but the point stands).

You need to stop repeating claims by those two hacks from California that were debunked a month ago.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Are you really that shocked? People have been on home arrest for the last 2 months. What exactly do people expect?

Use common sense? I know I know that is to hard

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Stop trying to flip this around. The CoronaVirus isn't Aids. It's a unique virus that is extremely contagious. Just because your Grandparents didn't die from it doesnt mean it hasn't killed others

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You all move goalposts like nobody I’ve ever seen.

News flash:

Corona isn’t car accidents either. They’ve killed way more people and will continue to kill way more people than Corona ever will.

Stop driving or shut the **** up you condescending moron.

Practicing social distancing for a few months isnt comparable to never driving again you idiot

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Practicing social distancing for a few months isnt comparable to never driving again you idiot

So when do want to open? How many you ok with dying? You never answered.

[Easy 6]

Everyone just stop arguing with these ****ing ninnies, go live your lives as you see fit and let’ em all cry

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You need to stop repeating claims by those two hacks from California that were debunked a month ago.

Well we'll certainly know for sure in a month or so if they're really hacks after all the partying in the Ozarks around this part of the country, I would imagine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Use common sense? I know I know that is to hard

You expect people to use common sense? Yeah, I think you expecting that just shows how uncommon common sense is because common sense would tell you most people aren't going to use common sense and to expect such is well, not using common sense.

[Donger]

Dr. Fauci:

"Now is the time, if ever there was one," he told Holy Cross, "for us to care selflessly about one another."

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Practicing social distancing for a few months isnt comparable to never driving again you idiot

What Magic 8-Ball did you get "a few more months from?" And the one from your coke dealer doesn't count. Or then again maybe it does.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So that's all it takes? 15 minutes to insure our immune systems are at peak efficiency? Not being glib, I'm legitimately asking.

Go outside, get some Vitamin D from the sun, eat a balanced diet, exercise and drink some water. Your immune system doesn't crash because you were inside for a few months.

Don't buy B or C supplements, they are a waste of money

The reason why the flu spreads in the winter is because we are in closer quarters because it is cold outside and humidity in the air is lower.