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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 03-01-2016, 03:48 PM   #3316
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Trout maybe? The Angels are pretty dumb with contracts.
That's who I immediately thought of, but I'm not sure how well he will age. Kevin Kiermaier could be a contender as well.
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:01 PM   #3317
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Today was an amazing day in Royals history. There are fans who are unhappy because the Royals are spending too much money.

Not really, but I never thought I'd see the day where people would question a signing like Salvy's.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:03 PM   #3318
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:13 PM   #3320
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:15 PM   #3321
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NOAH SYNDEGAARD IS 60 FEET AWAY, ANDY!!!
You forgot the other 6 inches...


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Old 03-01-2016, 05:28 PM   #3322
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:56 PM   #3323
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Old 03-01-2016, 06:04 PM   #3324
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So you're ok with letting Cain walk?

Potentially. If his bat stays at 2015 levels, and he adds a smudge more power, he could be a plus RF well into his mid-30s like Hunter was. Just depends on how the bar holds up.

He's going to lose some IF hits as he ages, but if he's hitting 20 HR and 35 2b, he plays just fine there.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:25 PM   #3326
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Letting Cain go has gotta be one of the dumbest thoughts on the planet. He was team MVP and a BIG BIG part of our success.

Not limited to the planet.

Cain's value is heavily tied to his legs. He had a ton of IF hits in 2014 and 2015, which contributed to his BA. His defense is heavily reliant on his speed and range.

Those are all things that are unlikely to age well as he hits his mid-30s.

If he becomes merely a good RF rather than an elite (top 3-5) Cf defensively, and his BA drops 15-20 points with fewer leg hits, he will need to continue to be the type of power hitter he was in 2015.

If he puts up another .300/15-20 HR/.350 OBP/.475 SLG season, ok. Extending him makes a lot more sense. Otherwise,
In extending him, you're risking having the next Carl Crawford on your payroll.

Clifs: you have to be cautious about the commitments to you make to speed guys as they enter their 30s.
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I love me some LoCain but it's absolutely right to be very cautious with an aging outfielder who's value on both sides relates to his legs.
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I stand corrected. I was just basing that comment on a couple of small comments I've seen on Rany tweets. That's pretty brutal, even for Royals fans.

There's always risk, but it's not like catchers always fall off a cliff either. Molina's best seasons were in that 29-30 range. Perez is only 25 years old. They just signed a 25 year old multiple Gold Glove catcher to a a 6 year deal that is $30 million less than what guys like McCann and Martin got. I get they already had him under contract, and he definitely needs to rest more.... but people are talking like he's going to be a 1B at 28. He's probably the toughest guy on the team, and his value to this team will be extremely difficult to replace too.
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:14 PM   #3329
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I stand corrected. I was just basing that comment on a couple of small comments I've seen on Rany tweets. That's pretty brutal, even for Royals fans.

There's always risk, but it's not like catchers always fall off a cliff either. Molina's best seasons were in that 29-30 range. Perez is only 25 years old. They just signed a 25 year old multiple Gold Glove catcher to a a 6 year deal that is $30 million less than what guys like McCann and Martin got. I get they already had him under contract, and he definitely needs to rest more.... but people are talking like he's going to be a 1B at 28. He's probably the toughest guy on the team, and his value to this team will be extremely difficult to replace too.

Yeah, a lot of Royals internet fans are being dumb about this.

They're the same type of folks who keep insisting that the Royals need to trade Hosmer after this season for prospects and restock the farm rather.
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Yeah, a lot of Royals internet fans are being dumb about this.

They're the same type of folks who keep insisting that the Royals need to trade Hosmer after this season for prospects and restock the farm rather.
Yeah, there's a growing number of people on the Royals subreddit who think trading Hos after 16 is the way to go.

**** that noise. I don't care what the next year brings, you simply don't gut a WS caliber team.
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