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Old 04-23-2010, 04:52 PM  
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Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

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Old 04-24-2010, 12:30 AM   #331
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I take it you guys aren't too pleased with your "franchise" quarterback.
Your quotation marks are the key to that post. That's one of the reasons a lot of people were pissed about the McCluster pick. They felt a franchise qb was ripe for the picking with a very good risk vs. reward factor.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:31 AM   #332
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so I'm new to the Chiefs and aren't really aware of your depth at RB. I know of Charles obviously, but don't know about any other guys back there (well, Thomas Jones of course). However, I'm curious as to why they wouldn't just try and use McCluster in the backfield (he could run out of the slot as well at times). I know with the Saints we are constantly using Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush back there, often at the same time.
Most chiefs fans can't fathom getting the first downs required to show that many formations on the field....
He'll be lined up all over the field this season.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:31 AM   #333
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Carr is 6' tall, and Flowers is the same size but his rating coming out of college was higher than Arenas.

I would've just rather gone in a different direction. Charles can return kicks. McCluster can return kicks. We have genuine needs that we could've filled rather than drafting another nickel back and our 3rd kick returner.
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Flowers may have been rated higher but he wasn't a returner.


All I'm saying is that it's difficult for me to find fault in Pioli choosing playmakers this year.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:33 AM   #335
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Are you really overvaluing him because he's a returner?
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The draft doesn't matter...how well the team plays doesn't matter.

It is just information for people to adjust too.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:33 AM   #337
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Your quotation marks are the key to that post. That's one of the reasons a lot of people were pissed about the McCluster pick. They felt a franchise qb was ripe for the picking with a very good risk vs. reward factor.
Clausen was sitting right there, no doubt.

I know that if the Saints spent the kind of money y'all did on a guy who had ONE good year, I'd be in charge of the lynch mob headed toward to the dome.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:33 AM   #338
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The draft doesn't matter...how well the team plays doesn't matter.

It is just information for people to adjust too. People are locked in, and that is ok.

All we heard was how Pioli would be to ****ing stupid...didn't know about value...and would go with the safe pick and not big a real game changer like Claus or Berry.

Meanwhile the ND pick just tumbles. Tumbles into ****ing oblivion. 32 teams pass him AT LEAST once. At least 8 with pressing QB needs passed him at least once. His own coach passed him twice.

Then...Pioli drafts Berry.

We got one of the guys you wanted and the whole NFL made your need to get him at 6 look clownish.

You guys would have picked him at 6.

Yet everyone else is always reeruned...I think this is all hilarious. I have enjoyed this process today.

Meanwhile it is obvious it doesn't actually matter what happens, it is just information to adjust too...we get one of the guys you folks wanted and this is the thread that gets made.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=227147

He was too stupid to pick Berry and now the FG posts move.
Berry is 1 pick.


Can we not expect more? The point of this isn't to suck off pioli, it's to build a winning football team. You seem to only care about the former.


And why do you care what we think?

I've never seen you actually express an opinion on anything other than how awesome you think you are.
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I hope all our CB's and Berry have fun tackling because we're gonna get ripped on running plays.
When? In 2010? Big ****ing deal.

If this team had taken your Pioli projection of McClain, they'd be ****ed at safety.

If they took Berry but not an OLB, they'd be ****ed.

Face it: This team is a LONG way from filling all its holes and no matter who they chose, there are still going to be problems elsewhere.
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Berry is 1 pick.


Can we not expect more? The point of this isn't to suck off pioli, it's to build a winning football team. You seem to only care about the former.


And why do you care what we think?

I've never seen you actually express an opinion on anything other than how awesome you think you are.
That's how he always posts, he's above it, he is awesome and we suck.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:35 AM   #341
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All I'm saying is that it's difficult for me to find fault in Pioli choosing playmakers this year.
I'll give you that the draft wasn't nearly as bad as last year. I just think we dropped the ball on some guys that are going to be good, and would've immediately started for us in more than just nickel situations.

And McCluster could easily return the ball. Same with Charles. Sean Lee would've been a GREAT choice at 50 IMO.

I am glad he's going after playmakers. Genuinely. I just really wish he would've gotten one guy, just one guy at one of the core positions that desperately need help. I'll never forget what Jerome Harrison did to us.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:35 AM   #342
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I know how dare we expect more than 1 good pick.
Its not even about good players, because I think Weiss is smart enough to get production out of McCluster. Its about the [former, apparently] expectations that a 2nd round pick be a front-line starting caliber player at a position of importance.

With this draft it has become permissible for 2nd rounders to be WR3s and nickle CBs, eschewing those expectations of front-line starting material.
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When? In 2010? Big ****ing deal.

If this team had taken your Pioli projection of McClain, they'd be ****ed at safety.

If they took Berry but not an OLB, they'd be ****ed.

Face it: This team is a LONG way from filling all its holes and no matter who they chose, there are still going to be problems elsewhere.
They'd be a bit closer if they knew the difference in core player and complimentary player.
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Old 04-24-2010, 12:37 AM   #344
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Berry is 1 pick.


Can we not expect more? The point of this isn't to suck off pioli, it's to build a winning football team. You seem to only care about the former.


And why do you care what we think?

I've never seen you actually express an opinion on anything other than how awesome you think you are.
How awesome I think I am?

For you to actually take that from my posts says a lot more about you than me.

I don't think I am awesome I just don't see the world in black and white. Nothing is in black and white. To throw all these absolutes into something that has so many variables...many of which we don't know about makes smart people say the wackiest stuff.

There is no problem then expecting more than 1 pick. My point is that to think at this point that is all you have just seems foolish.

I painted a picture of the mob mentality all believing something that turned out to be a sham. Why should we continue to be berated for not believing the house is on fire?
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Welp, if I've learned anything from day 2 its that a 2nd round pick doesn't have the same expectations associated with it that it used to.
When in the history of the Chiefs has anyone had any expectations?

Round Two has historically been their Achille's Heel.
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